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Post by taxyman12 on Feb 26, 2006 4:09:52 GMT -6
i thought you said they didnt go full strength till after the first goal, get your story straight okay, no one is saying that jesuit wasn't full strength before fhs scored their first goal, what they were saying is that jesuit came out flat before fhs scored their first goal. Also, jesuit is a very good team and played like it after the initial goal by fhs--Fontainebleau beat jesuit at full strength, any one who watched the game could clearly see that.
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Post by badge on Feb 26, 2006 8:14:07 GMT -6
I don't care who Jesuit had on the field. They should not have been there anyway. Since LHS is out then FHS should have advanced on a bye and would still be playing Cro in the championship game.
Congratulations to FHS and Carencro for making it to the finals. They did what they had to do to get there and they deserve to play for the championship.
That doesn't mean I will quit asking questions about the LHS fiasco, but that is a different thread and shouldn't take away from the achievement of FHS or Carencro. I just feel we need all the facts so nothing like this can ever happen again.
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Post by ShreveDad on Feb 26, 2006 8:57:00 GMT -6
oh yes, lets all bow down to jesuit...gimme a break, they have lost two games in a row to better teams fontainebleau proved they were better where it mattered: on the field, not on a forum. Lots of us, me included, thought Lafayette and Jesuit were in a league by themselves this year. Fontainebleau proved yesterday the gap wasn't nearly as large as we thought. Congrats to Fontainebleau on a great win.
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Post by oldphart on Feb 26, 2006 9:08:52 GMT -6
Let it go! 2 teams who won every playoff game they played are in the final. Carencro was a low seed who had to beat strong competition, and did. Fontainebleau lacks tradition, of course they're a fairly new school. They won on the pitch. One of them gets, and deserves, the prize.
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Post by Carl on Feb 26, 2006 11:45:33 GMT -6
I think I will post something that might shock some people. I don't think it is fair for us to have the "ghost of Lafayette" on the poll. Just as we argue that Lafayette deserved to play, Fountainebleau is a good team and (eventhough, I think Lafayette is a lot less affected by a wet field than Jesuit, and I think Lafayette would have won) could have beaten Lafayette had they played them. They still had to get on the field and beat Jesuit, which has only been done by Lafayette in the past 2 years until today. Carencro took a WC slot and then turned it in a finals spot. On their way they beat Acadiana, who had just come off a big win against Dutchtown, and then they had to beat Brother Martin, who was a hot team in the playoffs, at Brother Martin. Hats off to coach Talley and the Cro team for fighting hard and making it to the finals. Neither of these two teams have ever been to the state finals. That means that this year will be the first state championship for the school that wins. I know mostly everyone on this board agrees that Lafayette deserved to get their chance, but the reality is they didn't. However, Fountainebleau did all that it could do. They played a tough St. Amant team, fought until the very end to beat Shreve, defeated Jesuit. I think FB would have rather faced Lafayette to erase doubt, but unfortunately they aren't able to do that. All they can do is win the games they play and they have, same with Cro. For that, both these teams deserve to be commended and deserve respect for being where they are right now, and both with very young teams. I would have liked for it all to be settled on the pitch, but under the circumstances, this is the best way it could have played out. It should be a fun final to watch. Good luck to both teams. You can't know how wrong you are to say lafayette didn't deserve it. We trained longer, worked harder, and wanted it more than any other team they could put in front of us. Last time i checked it was about who put more goals in the back of the net, not who dug up bitc h violations on a better team. So the way i see it, we do deserve it, and don't anyone say we don't.
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Post by Carl on Feb 26, 2006 11:48:02 GMT -6
however, given our current situation, i lend my full support to carencro, and #23 jake hebert, hatrick baby.
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Post by hdkjga on Feb 26, 2006 16:51:36 GMT -6
I think I will post something that might shock some people. I don't think it is fair for us to have the "ghost of Lafayette" on the poll. Just as we argue that Lafayette deserved to play, Fountainebleau is a good team and (eventhough, I think Lafayette is a lot less affected by a wet field than Jesuit, and I think Lafayette would have won) could have beaten Lafayette had they played them. They still had to get on the field and beat Jesuit, which has only been done by Lafayette in the past 2 years until today. Carencro took a WC slot and then turned it in a finals spot. On their way they beat Acadiana, who had just come off a big win against Dutchtown, and then they had to beat Brother Martin, who was a hot team in the playoffs, at Brother Martin. Hats off to coach Talley and the Cro team for fighting hard and making it to the finals. Neither of these two teams have ever been to the state finals. That means that this year will be the first state championship for the school that wins. I know mostly everyone on this board agrees that Lafayette deserved to get their chance, but the reality is they didn't. However, Fountainebleau did all that it could do. They played a tough St. Amant team, fought until the very end to beat Shreve, defeated Jesuit. I think FB would have rather faced Lafayette to erase doubt, but unfortunately they aren't able to do that. All they can do is win the games they play and they have, same with Cro. For that, both these teams deserve to be commended and deserve respect for being where they are right now, and both with very young teams. I would have liked for it all to be settled on the pitch, but under the circumstances, this is the best way it could have played out. It should be a fun final to watch. Good luck to both teams. You can't know how wrong you are to say lafayette didn't deserve it. We trained longer, worked harder, and wanted it more than any other team they could put in front of us. Last time i checked it was about who put more goals in the back of the net, not who dug up bitc h violations on a better team. So the way i see it, we do deserve it, and don't anyone say we don't. clarification:: "I know mostly everyone on this board agrees that Lafayette deserved to get their chance, but the reality is they didn't." I am not saying Lafayette didn't deserve to get their chance.....I am saying Lafayette didn't get their chance.
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Post by happyjack on Feb 26, 2006 16:59:36 GMT -6
I'm fairly certain that a "team" consists of a coach, assistant coaches, and players. Any violation by any of those on a "team" result in the "team" being disqualified. If the "team" had won state, all those on the "team" would have received the same championship rings. Therefore, a violation by one is just as if the violation was by all...
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Post by on Feb 26, 2006 17:50:47 GMT -6
thank you so much for that happyjack. i'm sure everyone in lafayette feels much better now. the fact remain that king henry can make up the rules as he goes. or should i say interpret! read the advertiser article in todays sports.
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Post by eurosweeper on Feb 26, 2006 18:13:23 GMT -6
Carencro plays Fontianebleu.
Not Laffy v. Jesuit---not anyone else.
My problem w/ the LHSAA is that one person (Henry) wrote the rules (according to an article in the paper); one person interprets the rules (Henry) again according to an article in the paper; and, one person implements the rules (Henry). If he wears all three hats does anyone really believe any principal of any member of any LHSAA school will every overrule him? Perhaps the best thing that comes out of this is a change in this perceived inequitable situation at the LHSAA. Perhaps not.
That all being said....Good luck to both Carencro and Fontainbleu who will both be playing for the Divison I Louisiana state boys championship. Please...no asterisk!
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Post by oledude on Feb 26, 2006 21:45:32 GMT -6
Let me see....the field was dry and did'n alter play, Jeusit played their 1 st string and Lafayette's score was 2-1 at home and the FHS score was 2-0 and in New Orleans....could one think that LHS probably would not win if they had a shot at FHS? oh by the way, someone told me LHS had 17 seniors and FHS only has 5...is that true?
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Post by Punkaro on Feb 26, 2006 22:26:39 GMT -6
I think Carencro will take this 3-1. Cro has a good offence and an alrite D and FHS has a good offence and Defence that could use improvement. It really depends on what type of field it is I think if its the field I'm thinking of then FHS won't have much of an attack without their throw-ins because of a wide field and #3 for Cro will be able to work it up the middle.
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Post by DREDG03 on Feb 26, 2006 22:44:57 GMT -6
this is were the mods should step in and take the ghost of LHS option away. i know they are busy with real life jobs and all but...
Neither team playing in the finals is worried about LHS because they are no longer playing. And Jesuit was beaten by the better team. I'm glad that these two favorties aren't in the finals. I beleive now their true character is showing. One way or the other every team in the playoffs is solely responsible for their outcome. These two have had the best outcomes to date. that's whythey are in the finals. let's give them their due.
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Post by PutMeInCoach2 on Feb 26, 2006 22:50:04 GMT -6
we cant take something out of a poll... we would have to delete the whole thread....
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Post by timaeus on Feb 26, 2006 22:54:28 GMT -6
I think the least we can do for the Lafayette players is let them see that many people think they are the best team in Division I. If people think Lafayette is the best team in Div I, we should allow them to express that opinion. An opinion like that does not hurt anyone.
Can you really believe that if Carencro, a team Lafayette outscored 13-1 in three games, that Lafayette won't be remembered?
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Post by PutMeInCoach2 on Feb 26, 2006 22:56:01 GMT -6
I think the least we can do for the Lafayette players is let them see that many people think they are the best team in Division I. If people think Lafayette is the best team in Div I, we should allow them to express that opinion. An opinion like that does not hurt anyone. Can you really believe that if Carencro, a team Lafayette outscored 13-1 in three games, that Lafayette won't be remembered? I think that they wanna really see how many people think will win out of this game. I don't think many have a problem with people saying lafayette should be there...
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Post by geauxgators on Feb 27, 2006 0:02:29 GMT -6
Cro 2-0
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Post by bigdog06 on Feb 27, 2006 14:26:18 GMT -6
My outlook on this game is that lafayette was truely on of the best teams in state and it was likely that they would've had a spot in the Championship but the reality is that they are not and people need to put that behind them...Carencro has a tough defense allowing 1 goal in the last 3 games of the playoffs.....Chs 2 FHS 1
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Post by lakeview on Feb 27, 2006 14:30:55 GMT -6
The poll says FHS 30 votes and da Bears with 13. Both teams have been underdogs all season, finishing the final regular season poll at # 9 and # 11 respectively.
That means Cro will win the game, of course.
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Post by hdkjga on Feb 27, 2006 15:58:59 GMT -6
Let me see....the field was dry and did'n alter play, Jeusit played their 1 st string and Lafayette's score was 2-1 at home and the FHS score was 2-0 and in New Orleans....could one think that LHS probably would not win if they had a shot at FHS? oh by the way, someone told me LHS had 17 seniors and FHS only has 5...is that true? An undefeated Jesuit team is much tougher to beat after they defeat Lafayette in Lafayette, than they are after they lose to Lafayette. It's like breaking the seal of invincibility and they realize they are human. You can't accurately compare those two games, becasue mentality and preparation are completely different if circumstances weren't the way they were.
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