St Amant 5, Destrehan 0

[froshtwins]

Wow - look what one little old soccer game can generate. Let me say this - I wasn't at the game as I was home with one of those starters who was out sick. I can tell you that my wife attended to watch our other son play. She reported to me that in her 10 years of attending rec, premier, high school and (semi?)professional soccer games, she has never been as offended by the behavior of a group of "fans" as she was at that game. She made a comment that she was shocked that it was allowed to continue which was apparently overheard by a school representative in attendance (don't know if it was the same one that the STA coach referred to). The individual apologized to my wife and advised that he had in fact spoken to the group of students at halftime. My wife stated that the comments were marginally less offensive in the 2nd half. If it was the same administrator, why would he tell coachray40 one thing and my wife another? I encourage vigorous support too, but there is a line that should'nt be crossed. Let's just let the kids play.

[farmboy]

coachray,you rebutted everything except yhe yellow cards and one red card.Care to comment? Were you ahead by five when the penalties were assessed? Were they penalties that were unnesseccary?

[coachray40]

Be glad to. St Amant got 4 yellows, with red card actually being a second yellow to the player. Destrehan had at least 2 cautions as well, might have been 3(another omitted fact), I dont remember. All of the yellows for both teams came throughout the game, not at the end. Player for St Amant getting two yellows got hit with a caution in the first half for a hard foul, and then got involved in a little scrap with a DHS player with about 2 minutes to go and received his second caution. I thought he got baited into it, but he should have been smarter. He was informed of that fact at his meeting with our schools principal on Thursday morning. I actually had a substitute standing at midfield for him when the action occurred. One of the yellows to my players was for him playing the ball away after a foul was called, and i think the other 2 were for hard fouls--one was to C-bass for a foul on an awkward tackle that was his second Yellow card in his entire career. RB was doing his best to lobby for yellow on every bit of contact in the game. To hear him tell, we were just wiping players out left and right. Not so.

[stafan119]

froshtwins said:

Wow - look what one little old soccer game can generate. Let me say this - I wasn't at the game as I was home with one of those starters who was out sick. I can tell you that my wife attended to watch our other son play. She reported to me that in her 10 years of attending rec, premier, high school and (semi?)professional soccer games, she has never been as offended by the behavior of a group of "fans" as she was at that game. She made a comment that she was shocked that it was allowed to continue which was apparently overheard by a school representative in attendance (don't know if it was the same one that the STA coach referred to). The individual apologized to my wife and advised that he had in fact spoken to the group of students at halftime. My wife stated that the comments were marginally less offensive in the 2nd half. If it was the same administrator, why would he tell coachray40 one thing and my wife another? I encourage vigorous support too, but there is a line that should'nt be crossed. Let's just let the kids play.

actually those "fans" are me and other students at school. so i know exactly what we said. no one said anything racial or meant to "hurt" someone. one of the players (#15) for destrehan asked if we wanted his number after the game and someone said "no i already have your moms". is that offensive? if they can talk to us in the stands, we can talk back to them. its part of the game, deal with it. the ref came up to us before the game and said to not use any vulgarity, etc. and we followed her rules and did nothin wrong. she never came talk to us or anything. if we are "offensive" to anyone in the stands, then they can move to another side of the stadium or somethin. its all to support our team.

as for Destrehans coach, you just lost 5 to 0. how bout you go do some coaching instead of blasting our team and players.

[jingaisaball]

Tiaemus I was at the game, the "Pit crew" did themselves no favors. As for the game it went nowhere quick, except for the occassional sequences of passes nobody really had control of the game. The referee at one point shouted at certain spectators to "keep their mouths shut", the crowd was small enough she knew where it came from!
Everyone knows abou the conditions of the Pit (shaped like ahumped-back whale), as for the cards: If you are going to have an opinion, you will have a card!
The cards were for stupidity not dangerous play (before someon e replies, I know you cannot be carded for being stupid. Half the players would'nt make it onto the field).
Coachray, I would say though if you're fans are going to piss-off officials, it will bite you on the rear!
This was an out of District game that did'nt prove anything, and the biggest talking point was the fans!!!
As the grat philosopher Bobby McFerrin said "Don't worry, be happy".

[stafan119]

jingaisaball said:

Tiaemus I was at the game, the "Pit crew" did themselves no favors. As for the game it went nowhere quick, except for the occassional sequences of passes nobody really had control of the game. The referee at one point shouted at certain spectators to "keep their mouths shut", the crowd was small enough she knew where it came from!
Everyone knows abou the conditions of the Pit (shaped like ahumped-back whale), as for the cards: If you are going to have an opinion, you will have a card!
The cards were for stupidity not dangerous play (before someon e replies, I know you cannot be carded for being stupid. Half the players would'nt make it onto the field).
Coachray, I would say though if you're fans are going to piss-off officials, it will bite you on the rear!
This was an out of District game that did'nt prove anything, and the biggest talking point was the fans!!!
As the grat philosopher Bobby McFerrin said "Don't worry, be happy".

that was actually a parent that the ref told to keep their mouths shut. not us (the Pit crazies)

[farmboy]

sounds like pit crazies need to wise up.After this forum,which refs read ,they may be inclined to be quick to throw fans out inorder to keep the peace and not jeapordize the players on both teams

[jingaisaball]

stafan119, i know it was'nt you!
Ieven know what Mother, Daughter, boyfriend group it was. Like I said to coachray "if the fans (in general) piss-ff officials, you lot were more interested in their players!! ;D

[magnet02]

Who is the best player on Destrehan

[stafan119]

magnet02 said:

Who is the best player on Destrehan

i didnt see any that were particularly special

[rocksccrstar]

CoachRay

As always I am impressed with your abilty to articulate, with eloquence, exactly what you mean. You are a classy coach and the behavior of your fans is in no way a reflection on you. With that being said.................

Let's look at the positive of the PIT crazies.....they are fans, they are interested in soccer, and this is a good thing.

I would love to see more students interested in HS soccer.

You should see the crowd of students we get for a girl's game

Merry Christmas Coach Ray and congrats on your win against Destrehan!

[beckhamismyidol]

i guess you showed him Coach, no more comments for him

[stasoccer5]

I for one am greatful for the STA fans they make the game much more fun and get us up even when we are down. I don't see in any way how our fans were offensive are anything else we are lucky to have such great fans and supporters of DHS should stop geting mad at our fans and try finding some of there own that are as dedicated as ours! Our fans are always crazy but anyone that runs their mouth calling us "a joke" then comes to our house a week later thinking that we aren't going to take it to heart is dumb! Now thats the real joke! Maybe next time they wont talk trash!!

P.S. None of this is a knock on DHS players ya'll played a good game and i am looking forward to upcoming games Vs. ya'll
As for DHS coaching staff you really shouldn't talk about any other team and there so called "Strugles" when it is clear you have some of your own

[JustSomeRecPlayer8]

Some of the people who complain about the misbehaving fans are the ones who wonder why there aren't division I college soccer teams in Louisiana. The "Pit Crazies" are students who know little about soccer. They are there to support their friends and school, but most importantly are looking for someone "Zidaned" in the chest. The fact that St. Amant has fans to come out in almost any weather screamin at the top of their lungs when they should be studying for finals says a lot about the pride at St. Amant. These are the same fans that show up at girls volleyball games, the football games home or away even when it has a losing season, and the basketball games. Just be greatful that there are some fans in the stands.

Games with equally supportive fans on the opposite sides on the stands makes for a much more enjoyable game if your on the feild in my opinion.

[rbsoccerinsouth]

I've seen alot of responses to my last post. Wow, some people have to put things into perspective.

Here we are talking about high school soccer. And so many responders are trying to relate high school soccer to the world cup, English Premier League, the MLS, and even college soccer.

Let me begin with college soccer, ... If fans are that out of hand, on the college scenes, the home team is responsible to get them under control. If the home team doesn't find a way for the fans to cheer in a positive manner, than the home team forfiets the match.

Here in Louisiana, you have yet to experience that. Since you don't have college soccer here. On the boys level that is. Yes, you have girls soccer in college, but let's be honest, that's nothing more than an expanded high school or club environment. Women's college soccer in La is probably the lowest level of girls/womens soccer in the nation. (So, yes, begin to bash me on that comment. But prove me wrong)

Yes, on the professional and world cup level, you can bash the players all you want. That doesn't make it right. If anyone wants to lower themselves to that level than feel welcome. That doesn't show support for your team.

As for my analysis of the St. Amant/Destrehan match... I told it how it was. Many coaches are looking for a real scouting report and that's what I gave. If you want to call it a bashing of a team, sorry to hear that. Have you ever watched sportscenter on ESPN... that's what they give of a team. Are you calling or emailing ESPN to tell them that they are doing wrong? I didn't think so.

As for Beckham, I did give him a hard time. He needs to grow up a bit. He needs to grow up very much and learn what the real world of soccer is all about. He's just a little boy that just entered college soccer and probably only played rec+ soccer while growing up. Youth soccer has no room for the way that he feels the teams fans should support any team.

As for Coachray40, yes, I was a bit harsh with my game analysis. But, I just tell things how they are. Sorry if it offended any of the St. Amant people even with their win.

As for the Pit Crazies... I love what you are doing... however, you need to find a better way of going about things. As a coach, I accept all the criticism that you sent my way, but to start pointing out players on the field that are not part of your school is wrong. This leads to actions off the field that doesn't need to happen. Yes, you can say that it has never happend yet, but the more it takes place, it will eventually happen. Especially the more important the game. I hope as long as you continue to do what you are doing, it never it gets to that point.

As for Sebastian, I wasn't bashing him. I was only pointing out his strenghts and weaknesses. If you call that bashing... I'd hate to hear what you would say when someone really breaks down his game. I do give him props for being the second leading scorer in St. Amant history. He is a good player that knows how to find the goal.

As for my final thought on this thread, I have a purpose for every post I make. Wether its taken as a positive or a negative from the person reading it.

Two weeks ago, I made a comment about Central Lafourche. That comment was made to put a fire up there butt... to get them to continue to find success in their games. Many would have taken it as a put down. I hope they continue to remember that comment and use it to fire themselves up to be successful. I respect and look forward to seeing CL knock off teams while looking to be champions of not just the district by also the state.

Last week I made a comment about St. Amant. I respect their program and hope that they use that comment to propel them forward for the time being. Why do you think I keep making a point of saying a statement about the top 10 when I refer to St. Amant. I want them to be there and I know they can be there when the time comes.

When making these comments, I also have a direction that I am taking with the team that I coach. sorry, I cannot go there on here. I have to keep that withing myself and my team.

But, for everyone reading and think about what I am doing... keep thinking a little deeper..... as they would say ..... outside the box.

[soccer2006]

there is boys college teams in louisiana duh..

[JustSomeRecPlayer8]

Mr. Hyde

rbsoccerinsouth said:

If Central Lafourche and St. Amant are borderline for the top 10, you may as well throw in Destrehan.

What a joke.

I already did the homework on CL... would you like me to do the work on St Amant.

This top ten will become a total joke if those two teams get any votes for a top ten.

rbsoccerinsouth said:

total lack of class of the student body of St. Amant. This was an absolute horrible display of the way to support any team.

Definite display of one of two things.... either complete lower class trash or a total lack of control by the school
Sorry St. Amant, you may have won the game, but you lost when it comes to class and respectability.

rbsoccerinsouth said:

As in the world of St. Amant, C-Bass may be a big fish, but throw him into the ocean and he’s just a minnow. The shows over for the C-bass show pretty much for the rest of the season. He’s not the goal scorer he’s made out to be. At the moment, he’s the target to shut down if you play against St. Amant. If he can’t score against quality teams, he’s just the little minnow I mentioned above. I don’t see him becoming the big fish to step up and get his team through the big games. He’s too soft and doesn’t get involved enough.

rbsoccerinsouth said:

St. Amant… Still Not A Top 10 Vote

DHS was missing 6 starting varsity players.

I would love to have come to your place and put a whipping on your team but that’s not the case.

On this night, you played a JV team. I only have eleven deep for the Varsity team. We don’t sub unless we have to. And tonight, you played the JV plus 5 varsity players. Congradulations on your win. Pass that onto your players and supporters. Pat yourselves on the back for a great win.

For the Pit Crazies… way to go… your team was the team to have several yellows plus a red card. That’s a great way to teach your players to get ready for college soccer that penalizes for the accumulation of both yellow and red cards. You’re doing a great job of cheering your team on. Keep up the good work.

They never figured out how to play soccer and score easy goals. That’s how I can say that this team is very weak and will not do anything in district and will not make the state playoffs.

As far as a C-Bass show, I never saw it. He scored a couple of garbage goals besides the long break away he got. He's not a game maker. I never saw him take control of this game. He doesn't get involved enough and isn't physical enough to make an impact. He never looked to get the ball and make things happen. Against good teams, he will not be any worry. He needs to get more involved in the game. C-Bass may have scored 3 garbage goals against a very weak Destrehan varsity-JV team on this night, but against a good team this isn't going to happen.


We look forward to playing you in the playoffs if thats the way it may go otherwise next year in district play.

first summary...

1.) St. Amant before and after the 5-0 win is not a top 10 team... fair enough
2.) St. Amant student section is trash and/or classless ...or... St. Amant's administration is unable to controll its students... take your pick
3.) SEA BASS despite his name is a soft minnow in a big ocean... not a bass
4.) Big bad mean St. Amant beat poor little DHS JV cause of lack of depth and should pat themselves on thier back for their minute accomplishment
5.) The Pit Crazies get a kick out of yellow and red cards... who doesnt occasionally?
6.) St. Amant doesn't know how to play soccer and didn't score the easy goals therefore they won't make the playoffs
7.) The Cbass show is off the air and will be cancelled untill further notice due to his garbage goals


Dr. Jekyll

rbsoccerinsouth said:

St. Amant deserved this win.

rbsoccerinsouth said:

I've seen alot of responses to my last post. Wow, some people have to put things into perspective.

As for Beckham, I did give him a hard time. He needs to grow up a bit. He needs to grow up very much and learn what the real world of soccer is all about. He's just a little boy that just entered college soccer and probably only played rec+ soccer while growing up. Youth soccer has no room for the way that he feels the teams fans should support any team.


As for Sebastian, I wasn't bashing him. I was only pointing out his strenghts and weaknesses. If you call that bashing... I'd hate to hear what you would say when someone really breaks down his game. I do give him props for being the second leading scorer in St. Amant history. He is a good player that knows how to find the goal.

As for my final thought on this thread, I have a purpose for every post I make. Wether its taken as a positive or a negative from the person reading it.

Last week I made a comment about St. Amant. I respect their program and hope that they use that comment to propel them forward for the time being. Why do you think I keep making a point of saying a statement about the top 10 when I refer to St. Amant. I want them to be there and I know they can be there when the time comes.

okay... 2nd summary...

1.) Others need perspective...
2.) Beckham needs to grow up and is just another rec player (like myself)
3.) Sebastian ... reguardless of previous posts is a good player that can find the net
4.) Apparently his posts have points
5.) St Amant has a good program, and is worthy of the top 10 in due time.




I've been on the ugly side of a couple embarassing and very much lopsided losses... never once did part of the venting include trash talkin the team that just walked all over us. 2 years ago Nick Carter at BRHS planted 5 on us and almost single handidly (goal wise not team wise) sent us to Lafayette in the first round due to goal differential in the district. Were we upset yes, at them no... We played like crap... You reep what you sew, as a coach you should know and acknowledge that.

[snowbird]

some of the comments on this thread have confirmed my suspicion that if it wasn't for second class...some people would have no class at all.

just a thought. it's late and I tend to pontificate...at least that's what I hear.