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Post by markusmerck on Mar 22, 2007 7:54:49 GMT -6
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Post by markusmerck on Mar 22, 2007 8:04:15 GMT -6
Link to All Metro article does not include entire All Metro list. Here is the list:
GK Andre Boudreaux, Brother Martin
D Jordan Bourgeois, Jesuit
F Frank Breeden, St. Pauls
F Chris Cabo, Jesuit
D Matt Chugden, Fontainebleau
MF Stephen Duncan, Jesuit
MF David Gourges, Fontainebleau
F Guy Guinot, St. Pauls
D Anthony Macaluso, Brother Martin
F Matt Madere, Jesuit
GK Andrew Mullins, Jesuit
MF Tony Pananos, Rummel
D Taylor Russoliono, Rummel
F Kenny Schiffman, Brother Martin
GK Ross Wiedemann, St. Pauls
Offensive Player of the Year: Stephen Duncan, Jesuit
Defensive Player of the Year: Andrew Mullins, Jesuit
Coach of the Year: Hubie Collins, Jesuit
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Post by killab on Mar 23, 2007 10:57:45 GMT -6
This is weird! They have 3 or 4 players who made all-state but not all-metro. Which one is more accurate.
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Post by wave on Mar 23, 2007 17:55:15 GMT -6
Yeah--my son made first team all-state & all district but not all-metro--makes no sense. Apparently Times-Picayune picks the all-metro team.
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Post by killab on Mar 23, 2007 21:20:16 GMT -6
Seems like the All-Metro is more accurate then All-State. All-State is selected by coaches. Coaches can be biased in several ways and choose players they either know or coach. All the coaches don't know every player. The All-Metro has no room for biased because it is selected by the Times Picayune. They watch and see the best players and pick them. They don't push for specific players or show more to wards players they know. Maybe their are some kids on the All-Metro who should (by talent wise) be on All-State.
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Post by worldcupone on Mar 24, 2007 6:52:44 GMT -6
I think you have that backwards killab. How many different players does the Times Picayune see play?
I am certainly not convinced that the 15 best players come from only 5 schools.
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Post by shreve05 on Mar 24, 2007 9:58:18 GMT -6
All-State is done on a point system...the coaches vote yes...but the kids that made the All-State team all have to get something like 25 votes to make it! its not just one coach that sends in a vote an wala hes automatically on the team...
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Post by coachray40 on Mar 24, 2007 19:32:03 GMT -6
Agreed--all state is a much more unbiased system than all Metro NOLA. All Metro Baton Rouge is done by the coaches as well, not the paper, and I believe every player chosen to All Metro BTR made all state. Coaches are more qualified to evaluate talent than newspaper reporters. How many teams the Time/Pic really cover? For example, how many Bonnabel games did the Times/Pic cover this year? After the high profile teams on the Northshore, and D1D9, who else do they watch? I think all the players are worthy, but I also notice that no names are on that list from a non D1 school--Newman, Ben Franklin, STA, St Martins had no one worthy? Arent the Portillos worthy of some consideration? Only 5 schools are represented here--that looks to me to VERY biased.
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Post by timaeus on Mar 25, 2007 9:49:25 GMT -6
I disagree on this subject.
Having played HS ball in New Orleans, I've always thought the All Metro Team was a better team than any given divisional All State team. Having said, that I would have prefered to make All State to All Metro, just for the prestige of it, but on average, I think the NOLA All Metro team could beat any of the divisional All State teams based purely on talent.
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Post by worldcupone on Mar 25, 2007 11:33:15 GMT -6
I disagree on this subject. Having played HS ball in New Orleans, I've always thought the All Metro Team was a better team than any given divisional All State team. Having said, that I would have prefered to make All State to All Metro, just for the prestige of it, but on average, I think the NOLA All Metro team could beat any of the divisional All State teams based purely on talent. So you think these newspaper writers know more about soccer than the coaches? How many of these newspaper writers/want to be jocks know anything about soccer? I would love to see them on the field, as players or coaches. Maybe they could handle a U5 team at best. Even that would be comical. |
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Post by timaeus on Mar 25, 2007 12:12:15 GMT -6
I'm not saying that. I'm saying the New Orleans Metro Team is better than any divisional All State team for any given year.
Through the years, compare NOLA Metro Teams to the All State teams and you will see this fleshed out.
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Post by worldcupone on Mar 25, 2007 14:33:45 GMT -6
Timmy, now, only if you look with bias eyes.
There will be a number of NO All Metro guys on the All State team as well, so in order for that to be true you must think that most of the rest of the All State team should be replaced with NO All Metro guys.
So are you saying that the All State team should be made up of mainly NO All Metro players?
I think Coachray gave excellent insight to this matter.
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Post by alundb1 on Mar 26, 2007 10:27:03 GMT -6
As a NO coach who either played or watched every good NO area team this past year, I agree that the voting was HORRIBLE.
The top 15 players dont play for 5 teams. Now if they gave all 15 players to Jesuit, at least that would have made more sense. I could have agreed with that. There are teams that beat or tied those other 4 teams and they received no players.
I spoke with someone at the Times Picayune and their arguement was that the selection process is insanely difficult and that they really only really covers the more powerhouse schools, making it kind of a popularity contest.
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Post by alfred on Mar 31, 2007 9:41:30 GMT -6
I spoke with someone at the Times Picayune and their arguement was that the selection process is insanely difficult and that they really only really covers the more powerhouse schools, making it kind of a popularity contest. Well said...When it comes down to it, it really is which kid is the most popular amongst their peers for reasons other than soccer talent (i.e., well-liked, in the right clique, his parents have the most $, etc.). I feel that true soccer talent isn't what you do with the ball, but what you do without it. The only problem with that is that most people do not understand the game of soccer well enough to know this or even see it. It's more about finding open space, or making runs down the line or through the defense as a midfielder to confuse defenses. Now granted every kid on these lists deserve to be there because they are very talented with the ball and how well they play their positions. But there are some kids who show integrity through intelligence on the field and have nothing to show for it because most people (coaches and sports writers included) do not realize how great of an asset these types of kids are. |
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