Flat3's Computer Rankings

[ooldschool]

I am a big fan of this and the work that flat3 has done. With that said, I don't understand the BTR issue. If they play the same people as D-town and St.Amant, why haven't they moved up to the same level or close to the same level in rankings.

[ooldschool]

I am a big fan of this and the work that flat3 has done. With that said, I don't understand the BTR issue. If they play the same people as D-town and St.Amant, why haven't they moved up to the same level or close to the same level in rankings.

[flat3]

Thanks, ooldschool. Here is an explanation.
----------------Record---Overall---Quality--Total
Dutchtown----17-3-2---190.24---160.71---350.95
St. Amant-----16-6-1---148.92---116.67---265.58
Baton Rouge--13-6-1---158.45----91.67----250.12

In Overall Record Point (adjusted for schedule strength), Dutchtown's score is much higher due to their 17-3 record (85%). BTR is higher than St. Amant in this department despite that BTR has a lower win % than St. Amant (68% vs. 73%). This is because BTR played a stronger schedule (2.32) compared to St. Amant (2.05).
BTR hurts in the Quality Opponent Point department (adjusted for the strength of quality opponents). While Dutchtown's record is 9-3-2 and St. Amant's record is 7-4-1, BTR's record is 6-6. Yes, BTR beat St. Amant (2-1) and split with Dutchtown (0-3 and 4-3), but my computer rating (in fact, none I know of) reflects head-to-head results.
What hurts BTR is their early losses to those they should have beaten (Rummel 1-4 and University 1-3). If BTR had beaten University, they would have been just ahead of St. Amant (266.78). St. Amant beat University twice (7-1 and 2-1), and this is the difference between them right now.

[ooldschool]

I think I have it now. Thanks for the clarification. I still think this needs to be considered as the state poll though. This takes all personal opinions out of the equation.

[flat3]

That can be done if we have records of ALL games played as we do in football. Then, we can come up with an objective power ranking. Until then, this ranking is still subjective....

[hideki]

thank you for them time you put in flat

[flat3]

Computer Ratings as of 1/29/06

1 542.74 Jesuit
2 444.31 Laffy
3 423.94 Dutchtown
4 412.15 St. Pauls
5 391.54 St. Louis
6 356.67 Vandy
7 308.33 B.M.
8 279.22 O.C
9 273.08 St. Amant
10 262.69 Capt. Shreve
11 248.35 University
12 237.38 Fontainebleau
13 233.10 B.R.
14 222.67 West Feliciana
15 218.88 Caddo
16 214.29 Byrd
17 202.86 Catholic
18 201.67 Teurlings
19 199.69 Terrebonne
20 192.44 STM
21 191.36 Mandeville
22 189.25 Rummel
23 188.69 Carencro
24 179.92 St. Martin's
25 179.86 Destrehan
26 177.03 Airline
27 175.00 ASH
28 171.36 St. Charles
29 169.01 Christian Life
30 165.67 Pineville
31 156.52 Parkway
32 155.87 Acadiana
33 137.37 CL
34 125.06 DeRidder
35 117.01 Comeaux
36 116.48 Neville
37 108.70 St. Thomas Aquinas
38 102.97 E.A.
39 99.91 Menard
40 97.62 Zachary
41 96.00 Newman
42 91.47 EDW
43 50.00 Holy Cross

[flat3]

Ratings as of 2/5

Baton Rouge moved up after two wins, including a shutout vs. Catholic. So did STM, who beat OC 5-0.

If I do this again next year, I will probably introduce not only "lopsided win," but also "lopsided loss." OC (0-5 vs STM) and University (0-4 vs Episcopal) should have gone down further.

1 542.74 Jesuit
2 441.86 Laffy
3 441.26 Dutchtown
4 406.52 St. Pauls
5 387.99 St. Louis
6 345.22 Vandy
7 309.42 B.M.
8 291.66 Capt. Shreve
9 253.62 B.R.
10 253.25 O.C
11 252.82 St. Amant
12 240.49 University
13 236.89 Fontainebleau
14 228.95 St. Thomas More
15 221.88 West Feliciana
16 208.24 Catholic
17 202.70 Caddo
18 201.43 Byrd
19 199.50 Terrebonne
20 195.34 Teurlings
21 190.51 Mandeville
22 188.69 Carencro
23 185.88 Airline
24 185.03 Rummel
25 182.85 Pineville
26 181.26 St. Martin's
27 178.33 Destrehan
28 174.31 ASH
29 165.38 Christian Life
30 159.52 St. Charles
31 155.87 Acadiana
32 146.07 Parkway
33 144.17 Newman
34 140.60 CL
35 120.98 Neville
36 120.13 Comeaux
37 119.01 DeRidder
38 115.58 St. Thomas Aquinas
39 105.91 E.A.
40 104.01 EDW
41 102.27 Menard
42 101.78 Zachary
43 50.00 Holy Cross

[Pitchstalker]

Interesting note with this ranking or even the Overall rankings from the past are how many of these schools are private, parochial, or magnet schools. I really do not believe that schools recruit soccer players, however the money that allows players to get excellent select/premier coaching at a young age is also able to afford the quality schools. So while the schools do not recruit they have a greater "chance" of landing good soccer players solely based on economics.....??

How many of the top 20 schools in this particular ranking do not fall into the categories of private, parochial, or magnet?

Someone told me Lafayette was magnet...?? I wasn't aware of that. What about Shreve? Someone with more knowledge of the individual schools across the state perhaps could make us a list here.

[ostrya]

BRHS is a magnet, but
Rah, Rah, Ree, Ree,
We all go to school for free!

[Pitchstalker]

Really? Wasn't aware of that...is that the way all magnet schools are set up?

[ostrya]

Ben Franklin and Caddo Magnet are also public schools that do not charge tuition.

[ShreveDad]

Shreve is a magnet school. It is a liberal arts and engineering magnet school. We have exactly 1 starter (Gavin Duncan) who lives out of district. In contrast Byrd and Magnet are also both magnet schools and I'll bet 50% or more of their starters live in the Shreve district. 2 years ago 9 of 11 starters at Magnet lived in the Shreve district. The liberal arts curriculum is not one that attracts many guys and the engineering curriculum is a very difficult one that involves AP Physics and calculus. Not one for everybody. So while we are a magnet school, it doesn't really help us draw a lot of soccer players from the other schools.

[ostrya]

BRHS doesn't even have a faculty coach for soccer. McKinley doesn't either. Both have volunteer coaches.

[ShreveDad]

futbolplaya1608 said:

only magnet school up north is caddo magnet..parkway, shreve, byrd, airline, are all public..loyola is private

Shreve is a liberal arts and engineering magnet, Byrd is a math and science magnet.

[upper90]

that's the way most coaches are up north

[badge]

Lafayette is not considered a magnet school. Lafayette parish has set up schools of choice through their high schools. A student can apply, out of their zoned school, to one of these academies in their freshman or sophomore years, however they will have to wait one year for eligibility in sports:
Lafayette High School Academy of Health Careers
Acadiana High School Academy of Business and Finance
Carencro High School Academy of Information Technology
Northside High School Engineering Academy
Comeaux High School Academy of Design

Lafayette High does have the gifted program in the parish and the gifted students from out of zone do not have to wait a year for eligibility.

I am curious about the number of faculty coaches in LA high school soccer. It is my understanding that most of the Lafayette parish coaches are volunteer and not on faculty. Does anyone have any facts on this? I don't think soccer will ever get its due recognition from the schools,etc., until it has faculty coaches willing to fight for their rights as a team. The football coach at LHS won't even let the soccer team practice on "his" field! The team has to practice at Moore Park. Do other teams have that problem?

[ostrya]

McKinley has had some problems with that. The football coach in the past has not allowed the soccer team to practice on the field until the football team finished the playoffs.

[Pitchstalker]

Interesting set up in Lafayette Parish...

[soccerbudds]

All coaches in Lafayette are not related to the school. Some are paid by the programs to coach though.