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Post by timaeus on Oct 13, 2003 16:21:23 GMT -6
I think there's little question who the top two players in state are. They were probably the top two players in state last year as well. But which all-star is better?
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Post by FAn30 on Oct 14, 2003 6:50:04 GMT -6
I have to disagree with you. Will might have been a great player at U-15 or 16. He might still be a good high school player but I've watched him play on his Lafreniere team the last two years and watched him slowley get pushed out of center mid to outside. He is really small and only weighs around 120 pounds. He still has great skills but gets pushed all over the field. I think you could pick three or four other players off of the u-18 Lafreniere team that are at this age better than Will. He quit the team this year and went to Lakeview. I watched a Lafreniere scrimmage and they havn't missed him at all. I think there are two other kids that really impressed me that you need to watch on that team. BJ Nielson and Brian Dooley. These two kids and can flat out play. Brian Dooley I think is the most dominate player in the state at this time.
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Post by CantBContained on Oct 15, 2003 18:35:04 GMT -6
Neither of these guys deserve to be called the best in the state. Dooley is probably better than Lapira and Wilson. The only reason people think Lapira is good is because too many people talk about him. He isnt that great anymore.
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Post by Eckleburg on Oct 15, 2003 19:19:14 GMT -6
Mr Fan30 & CantBContained
I have to disagree with you. I didn't see Wilson at all during the year but was able to watch their three games at Regionals.
Did this Dooley guy play on that team? If so I didn't notice him, I did notice Monteif, Ray, and Nielsen they looked good but couldn't put it in the net.
Back to Wilson - I didn't see him get pushed around but I did see the puny underweight kid score at least one goal in every game. I think if any of the four better players on the team (whoever you say they are) would have scored a single goal in any of their games the team would have advanced. The games I saw he played outside until the end of each game, when they needed a goal to tie or win, puny Wilson went up top and scored (that was in every game). (Why did the coach always wait so long before putting him up top ?) The mark of a top player is how they perform at the highest level, not how they do against weak club or high school teams. Didn't that small puny kid lead the Region III team in scoring a while back? I wish I had 1 or 2 puny underweight kids like him - I'm not saying he is the best in the State, but when you make random statements about any player try to back them up with facts or stats, and not against weak HS or club teams but Regional caliber teams, ODP regional teams, or games in National Tournaments. - Just my humble observations.
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Post by FAn30 on Oct 16, 2003 8:35:15 GMT -6
Mr. Eckleburg
If you read my previous reply you will see that I said Will has great skills. The question was who was the best player in the state. I'm sorry but his size makes a huge difference in my opinion. If he could put on 15 pounds he would be the best player. I did see him play in the state finals and in my opinion he was being pushed around. I so him play with his new team against in my opinion a national caliber team (Lafreniere) this year. He looked like he was being pushed around. Is that why they moved him to forward in that game. I don't remember him scoring. Maybe his old "team" (Lafreniere) had something to do with him scoring in regionals.
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Post by SUB on Oct 16, 2003 10:03:14 GMT -6
.I played against Dooley last year and was not impressed. He is extremely fast, has some skill, but definately not the best player in the state. Lapira is an all around player, and from what I hear, Wilson is too.
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Post by Eckleburg on Oct 16, 2003 16:54:08 GMT -6
Mr. Fan30
This time I do agree with you, another 10 lbs would probably help Wilson, and as far as him scoring at Regionals, you are right - he could not have done it without his teammates, this team has tremendous skills, maybe the best I have ever seen on one team. In fact from watching Wilson play I would say his biggest strength is his ability to set other players up, not scoring. My point was that he was the only player that I saw in their 3 games to score, if there are 3 or 4 players better than him they must of all had 3 "off" games. From what I was told 1 more goal in any of their 3 games would have advanced the team. But maybe the 3 or 4 players you were talking about are on the defensive end. The defense had some very good players, only giving up 1 goal in each game against some very good teams. By the way i enjoyed reading your comments, well said, hope you keep posting.
One other thing - although I didn't get to see Lapira, I heard he played very well in Regionals last year also, maybe someone could comment.
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Post by Lionaround on Oct 16, 2003 20:48:03 GMT -6
I also haven't played against the other guys but I have played with Tony and he is at the top level. J.W. Hunt at St. Paul is another good one.
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Post by fifafootballer on Oct 17, 2003 20:21:12 GMT -6
how do we know who the best player in the state is going to be this year i mean sure we can guess by stats and other things but when it all comes down to it the best player at the end of the year will be the best player at the end of the year according to what he did this year not in the past i mean some kid that no one has ever heard of could all of a sudden turn it on and become an outstanding player now that probably wont happen but you never know
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Post by Boots on Oct 17, 2003 20:55:00 GMT -6
Very well stated. Having watched both play at several levels, I will say that both can play at the next level. They have contrasting styles Will is more finese and Joseph is very direct and high energy. They are both very humble. Lapira has committed to Notre Dame(a top 10 program) and Will is still deciding. Dooley is a very good player, but is not consistent. He has a tendency to disappear in big games (Regional etc) BJ is very consistent and will go somewhere big maybe Clemson. Mr. Fan30 This time I do agree with you, another 10 lbs would probably help Wilson, and as far as him scoring at Regionals, you are right - he could not have done it without his teammates, this team has tremendous skills, maybe the best I have ever seen on one team. In fact from watching Wilson play I would say his biggest strength is his ability to set other players up, not scoring. My point was that he was the only player that I saw in their 3 games to score, if there are 3 or 4 players better than him they must of all had 3 "off" games. From what I was told 1 more goal in any of their 3 games would have advanced the team. But maybe the 3 or 4 players you were talking about are on the defensive end. The defense had some very good players, only giving up 1 goal in each game against some very good teams. By the way i enjoyed reading your comments, well said, hope you keep posting. One other thing - although I didn't get to see Lapira, I heard he played very well in Regionals last year also, maybe someone could comment. |
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Post by MHS10 on Oct 31, 2003 17:44:57 GMT -6
Having played with or against all of the players that are being talked about here, Lapira is tops. He is the reason why the U17 Burn have been successful for a number of years. Can you say that about any other player? Wilson is fast, distributes the ball well, and scores goals, but he is not as important to his team as Lapira is. For the other players, they are all good, but are very selfish for the most part.
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Post by DaCoach on Oct 31, 2003 23:07:17 GMT -6
MHS10:
I agree with you, Lapira dosen't have the support on his team that Wilson has on his, therefore Lapira is more important to his team than Wilson. But both players play Big in Big games. Both players play for the good of the "team" and could care less about who scores, as long as they come out with a "W". As you said - both are very unselfish, this is a lot of what seperates them from everyone else.
I don't think the question of which player is the best will ever be answered until we see what they do in years to come. Hopefully they both will be successful on the field, with their attitudes I know they will be successful off the field.
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Post by Boots on Nov 1, 2003 14:29:52 GMT -6
GREAT !!-Thank you for your outstanding input and no negatives attached!! MHS10: I agree with you, Lapira dosen't have the support on his team that Wilson has on his, therefore Lapira is more important to his team than Wilson. But both players play Big in Big games. Both players play for the good of the "team" and could care less about who scores, as long as they come out with a "W". As you said - both are very unselfish, this is a lot of what seperates them from everyone else. I don't think the question of which player is the best will ever be answered until we see what they do in years to come. Hopefully they both will be successful on the field, with their attitudes I know they will be successful off the field. |
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Post by Boots on Nov 1, 2003 14:31:12 GMT -6
Tony could be good but all he likes to do is see who he can fist fight with--too bad because he isn't a bad player. JW is very goood I also haven't played against the other guys but I have played with Tony and he is at the top level. J.W. Hunt at St. Paul is another good one. |
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Post by LOS on Nov 5, 2003 14:01:20 GMT -6
i play with joe on the burn and if you watched this kid the stuff he pulls out of nowhere to make a play you would have no doubt he is the best in the state. he is small and can still push people twice his size off the ball. he is outstanding on both defense and offense even though most people only see him as offense.he has my vote for best but i also think joey belfour is one of the best in the state and he is only a junior.
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Post by timaeus on Nov 25, 2003 18:25:56 GMT -6
I think Wilson's performance against Rummel may have gotten him some early season votes.
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Post by Admiral on Nov 25, 2003 20:44:29 GMT -6
Lapira - going to Notre Dame? I think...
Wilson - going anywhere? Have not heard yet...
How about we let the college coaches recruiting decide who the best player is?
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Post by Bish on Nov 25, 2003 20:46:37 GMT -6
Yeah that's a good idea, since ya know, college coaches from all over the country actively recruit the best players from Louisiana.
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Post by Admiral on Nov 26, 2003 16:50:27 GMT -6
They are both great players. I would welcome either one on my team. Lapira is a better finisher. Wilson is better at distributing the ball. Lapira is best striker. Wilson is best midfielder.
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