questions for you refs re:high school rules

[bouree]

If anyone wants a rule book, I'll send my old one to you for free. Just IM your address to me.

[shellshocker]

Ben Franklin game: the keeper Josh F. held the ball OVER the line when he dropped kicked it. offense for handling the ball was correct. keeper does not have to leave the penalty area.

Jesuit game: CL # 19 took Jesuit #31 down for a yellow card. He dissented vigoursly, second yellow and he left the game to tear up the bench area. The coach had to yell at him for 10 minutes instead of watching his game.

CL keeper kicked in head by Ian. Trainer came on the field for about 5 minutes. No sub for keeper. I thought a sub was mandatory. Does anybody know?

Ian #6 on Jesuit got a red card for taunting. If what I read about high school rules is true, then Jesuit could sub. I question this rule. True, the ref ignored the AR for several trips, but he thought AR was signaling for offside, and such was not present.

Enjoyed the CL keeper play when Jesuit up 4-2 and CL coach subbed the keeper and put in a QUITE ACTIVE sweeper/keeper. Jesuit went nuts trying for the open goal, when just a few quick passes to the touchline would have eventually resulted in the goal.

And the offsides calls on Jesuit resulting in 1 or 2 goals called back was questionable.

Superb, surgical strike to top left by Wilson!

Absolute marvelous goal by #21 Rodrigue? on the flick
header in 77th minute.

Bike by Wilson surprised everybody. Dane pushed it off the crossbar, and ball landed back on field. Curious call by referee to award CL corner. Ball never left field of play, including the metal portion of goal.

Goal by Reese was nice after receiving a fallingdown pass as #31 Retif was being fouled, resulting in 4th goal by Jesuit.

The free kick by Wolfe from the 18 was dropped by CL keeper over the white line. I have now seen the Mandy keeper, Slidell keeper and CL keeper all drop Jesuit kicks resulting in goals. Will this continue with Acadiana.

[Eckleburg]

Answers to ShellShocker

1) - hands outside box is a foul - however most of the time a warning is issued 1st.

2)Fustration by #19 - really hurt his team

3) CL had the backup ready to enter - ??

4) That's the rule

5) Easier said then done, Jesuit had a hard time clearing the ball because Cl had 11 players in the attacking third, they scored once, and had 2 or 3 corners and several balls bouncing in the box in the last few minutes.

6) What can you say, the assistant was in perfect position on each call - I guess that's what he saw.

7) was a nice shot, 1 in the 1st half skimmed the outside post and hit side netting

8) it was a beautiful shot

9) Dane not only made that save but 3 or 4 others that 90% of HS keepers would not have made - George also made 1 great save that everyone seems to overlook when Dane was out! The keepers were MVP's!

10) Both the 1st and 4th goals by Jesuit were things of beauty

11) Lucky for Jesuit, he makes that play 99/100 times.

12) I pull for CL but the truth is Jesuit took advantage of CL's mistakes and deserved the win - some calls were questionable on both sides but that wasn't why CL lost the game. Good luck to Jesuit and all the teams still remaining.

[McScruff]

If the keepers were the mvp's of a 5-3 game, then I really wonder if either of these teams can play any defense. I am not trying to be critical, but it seems like the offenses were able to have their way in this one.

[Footy365]

Both teams were trying to get forward, it was a real open game, that's probably why the score was so high.

[shellshocker]

I missed CL's first goal, but would again say that Wilson's strike was superb, and the Rodrigue goal was off, I believe, a 40 yard kick from the right defender to the head of Rodrigue on the 8 yard line. Both were breathtaking.

To have 2 goals of that caliber in the same game was a real treat. Dane played with ice water in his veins, nothing he could have done to save those 2 goals, and I agree with Eck-man that Dane was MVP of the game, and George also had one excellent save.

The tenacity of CL was impressive. To say that both defenses were weak is a statement you would not make if you had witnessed the battle in Tad Gormley on Tuesday. You had to be there.

[Footy365]

the first goal was a breakaway tap in

[shellshocker]

At the STA vs StL match today in Hammond, the STA CM, Dinel # 18, did not have shinguards. Wasn't this a rule the ref's were supposed to enforce this year?

[ShreveDad]

Shinguards are required at every level of soccer. The referees were asked to make sure players are wearing age appropriate shinguards and that they wear them within 3-4 inches of the top of the shoe to give some protection down low where they are most likely to get kicked.

[ShreveDad]

You are right, I should have looked at what I wrote better. The rule we used was 3 or 4 fingers which would come close to 2 inches. This rule is impossible to enforce, however as lots of players push the shinguard down at pregame checks and then put them back up after the check.

[bouree]

I check shinguards before the game and I watch them move them down. If they use tape, I watch them retape. If I notice they have moved them up during play, they are removed from the field as soon as I notice unless their apponent is attacking. They get that one warning, and then a card. When they know you mean business, they will keep them where they belong. It's just some refs don't enforce it and that makes it more difficult for the rest of us. Here in BR, the word gets out on the players to watch for. It's become a joke to some of us wondering what the player will say when told to move the guards down. "The last ref let me play with them there." "I don't have another pair." (If you say they can't play, boy, do they find a pair quickly)

[defencerules]

interesting that bouree said players get a rep about not wearing their shinguards... i just posted that a similar thing happens about players who take dives. refs get to know these players, and sooner or later they'll find themselves not getting the call when they are legitimately fouled.

[ShreveDad]

I guess I would fall into the group that didn't enforce this to the letter of the law this year. I did the pregame check but didn't follow up like I should have. Next year I will try and do a better job with it. Maybe our whole referee association up here will set the tone early about this problem. I also wish the coaches would take some responsibility in making sure their players are properly equipped. Nice hearing what some of the other referees are doing, and the difference it can make.