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Post by smee on Mar 16, 2016 14:53:14 GMT -6
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Post by pshenton on Mar 16, 2016 20:15:58 GMT -6
Good riddance
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Post by drogba on Mar 16, 2016 20:33:36 GMT -6
Yes it is and it is going to be ugly. They are going to financially compete to lock up referees in new league and they are not going to play the schools that voted for the split. I think the only thing that would save it is if the state bill forced it back together by denying funding. But the select 60 team league is coming.
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Post by SFC Retired on Mar 16, 2016 20:47:23 GMT -6
Do other states do silly things like this ?? I know Pennslyvaina doesn't ...
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Post by laffysoccermom on Mar 16, 2016 21:58:59 GMT -6
Don't really know that it's silly. If public and private schools have different interests then the public schools can force their way through. Nothing really against the public schools- they vote in what they feel is in their best interest just as the private schools do.
Of course, in a perfect world we would all put the kids interest first and try to increase participation and the level of play while teaching valuable life lessons. Unfortunately we don't live in that world.
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Post by Steven Gerrard on Mar 16, 2016 22:03:04 GMT -6
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Post by Steven Gerrard on Mar 16, 2016 22:05:23 GMT -6
Do other states do silly things like this ?? I know Pennslyvaina doesn't . You mean have a public/private split? Yes, other states do it. Of course, most other states do not have as many private schools as Louisiana.
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Post by mswatd on Mar 17, 2016 6:27:03 GMT -6
I hate to say I told you so! I've eluded to this all season and it seems as though my source is yet again on the mark!
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Post by theirishman on Mar 17, 2016 7:21:11 GMT -6
So, when this new organization or something like it gets going, it will be open to Public and Private schools. My guess is that some public, community schools will join. Then after a year or 2 of bad referees, less income and lower level of play in the old LHSAA, all of the schools will eventually join. If not, I can see athletes from public schools trying to find ways to make sure they are playing in the "good" league.
I hope the academics that voted for the split realize that what is in your short term interest is not always in your long term interest. Better yet, the legislature may save the LHSAA from themselves.
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Post by time2retire on Mar 17, 2016 12:03:14 GMT -6
Maryland has a public/private split
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Post by drogba on Mar 18, 2016 21:18:13 GMT -6
So, when this new organization or something like it gets going, it will be open to Public and Private schools. My guess is that some public, community schools will join. Then after a year or 2 of bad referees, less income and lower level of play in the old LHSAA, all of the schools will eventually join. If not, I can see athletes from public schools trying to find ways to make sure they are playing in the "good" league. I hope the academics that voted for the split realize that what is in your short term interest is not always in your long term interest. Better yet, the legislature may save the LHSAA from themselves. Here is the catch the new league is going to have a tv contract, is going to have large sponsorship and that 15k buy in for the first 60 schools is going to go up which each additional group. This is being set up to punish when it happens. A lot of good people said wait and turn the other cheek but I think the latest split just finally opened the door and all the admins and boards are done with it. I can't imagine the schools that voted for the split will even be given the chance to join the league at any point in the future. I already heard the schools in the new league will not play any school that voted for split so no way they end up letting the same crew through the door. Unfortunately this is where we are at. I still think the legislature is the only hope and boy see what they have been up to lately not sure they can save anything.
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Post by parttimecoach on Mar 19, 2016 11:08:46 GMT -6
Don't really know that it's silly. If public and private schools have different interests then the public schools can force their way through. Nothing really against the public schools- they vote in what they feel is in their best interest just as the private schools do. Of course, in a perfect world we would all put the kids interest first and try to increase participation and the level of play while teaching valuable life lessons. Unfortunately we don't live in that world. What is silly is the thought that the select schools would remain a part of an organization where they have no voice. They are outnumbered 60% to 40%.
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Post by Steven Gerrard on Mar 19, 2016 13:49:36 GMT -6
So, if your side doesn't win a vote, then just leave? If the democrats win the White House, then the republicans should leave the country? Or get their states to secede?
Nor does it make sense for the legislature to get involved. My preference is for the legislature to stay out of these things. Let the people decide. I can never understand why legislatures want to control everything. And it is usually Republicans who are doing it.
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Post by laffysoccermom on Mar 19, 2016 15:40:21 GMT -6
Comparing LHSAA to the USA is a bit of a stretch- why pay money and abide by rules which are sometimes idiotic to an organization that has separated you from them anyway. Also any vote that comes down to private vs public will always go the way of public.
LHSAA wants things to be separate so why not separate all the way.
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Post by jmlrvp50 on Mar 19, 2016 16:08:01 GMT -6
Texas Tennessee Virginia Georgia New York New Jersey North Carolina Delaware Maryland. Just to name a few have had the public private split for years. They can play each other in the regular season but have separate state tournaments.
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Post by gobbo on Mar 19, 2016 17:12:44 GMT -6
So, if your side doesn't win a vote, then just leave? If the democrats win the White House, then the republicans should leave the country? Or get their states to secede? Nor does it make sense for the legislature to get involved. My preference is for the legislature to stay out of these things. Let the people decide. I can never understand why legislatures want to control everything. And it is usually Republicans who are doing it. Please keep politics off of this forum. This is one of the few places to come where I'm not bombarded w that crap.
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Post by Steven Gerrard on Mar 19, 2016 18:05:05 GMT -6
Sorry about that.
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Post by drogba on Mar 20, 2016 18:17:55 GMT -6
Texas Tennessee Virginia Georgia New York New Jersey North Carolina Delaware Maryland. Just to name a few have had the public private split for years. They can play each other in the regular season but have separate state tournaments. Exactly only difference is they are not going to play the teams left in lhsaa that voted for split. Sounding like going to happen. Definitely will be interesting.
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Post by jmlrvp50 on Mar 21, 2016 8:18:59 GMT -6
The reason for the split here and in other states is not complicated. Also the split is in all sports. Cut through all of the rhetoric and crazy talk. The reality is that the private/parochial/Christian/magnet school play by a totally different set of rules when it comes to the pool of students and student athletes. It is a fact Has nothing to do with school choice or discrimination or any of all of the foolishness that people talk about. This is not something new. Just finally new to Louisiana. We will see how it pans out
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Post by laffysoccermom on Mar 21, 2016 9:16:12 GMT -6
What I don't understand is why those who voted for the split seem to be the most upset that the split may be all the way. Why just split in post season. If it's truly unfair to public schools, why not have the districts be separate too? That way the public schools have a fair shot at district championships too. That makes sense. If you're going to do separate districts, why not separate organizations?
I don't know which way our school would go. I'm not in the know but the more I think about it, this new organization makes sense.
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