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Post by time2retire on Jan 26, 2020 20:23:55 GMT -6
2015-16: 104
2016-17: 154
2017-18: 170
2018-19: 166
2019-20: 126 reported so far, with one week left
98 - boys varsity
20 - girls varsity
4 - boys jv
4 - girls jv
31 - two yellow cards in the same game
33 - abusive language or gestures
22 - violent conduct (fighting)
19 - violent conduct (non fighting)
11 - serious foul play
6 - denying obvious goal scoring opportunity by foul
3 - denying obvious goal scoring opportunity by handling
1 - taunting
8 coaches have been sent off, none twice
118 players have been sent off, with 4 of those receiving two red cards, making 1 of those ineligible (2 fighting)
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Post by OPHSLadyLions on Jan 27, 2020 8:41:33 GMT -6
I feel like the number of reds for "abusive language or gestures" should be a lot higher. Some refs are much more forgiving while some are extremely strict. I tell our kids not to use bad language and they are punished even if the ref does not, but the double standard during matches has grown extremely tiresome.
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Post by time2retire on Jan 27, 2020 9:04:59 GMT -6
I feel like the number of reds for "abusive language or gestures" should be a lot higher. Some refs are much more forgiving while some are extremely strict. I tell our kids not to use bad language and they are punished even if the ref does not, but the double standard during matches has grown extremely tiresome. Looking at all of the reports and knowing a lot of what is said on the field, I agree with you in part that there needs to be consistent application across the board. There's a huge misconception by some on both sides that any language should get a red card. Evaluating the context goes a long way in managing the language. A huge topic for a different audience that I will try my best to standardize before the season next year. As for my area, a reminder went out this past weekend concerning evaluating language during games. I'll be the first to admit I am personally one of the more lenient ones when it comes to language and tend to talk my way through language issues if I can. Missing a goal and saying oh sheet should not result in being sent off. Calling the referee a fooking deck should result in being sent off. And approaching the referee after the game to get sent off for language is just plain asking for it. |
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Post by OPHSLadyLions on Jan 27, 2020 10:38:52 GMT -6
I feel like the number of reds for "abusive language or gestures" should be a lot higher. Some refs are much more forgiving while some are extremely strict. I tell our kids not to use bad language and they are punished even if the ref does not, but the double standard during matches has grown extremely tiresome. Looking at all of the reports and knowing a lot of what is said on the field, I agree with you in part that there needs to be consistent application across the board. There's a huge misconception by some on both sides that any language should get a red card. Evaluating the context goes a long way in managing the language. A huge topic for a different audience that I will try my best to standardize before the season next year. As for my area, a reminder went out this past weekend concerning evaluating language during games. I'll be the first to admit I am personally one of the more lenient ones when it comes to language and tend to talk my way through language issues if I can. Missing a goal and saying oh sheet should not result in being sent off. Calling the referee a fooking deck should result in being sent off. And approaching the referee after the game to get sent off for language is just plain asking for it. I make my girls run and bench them for the "f" word, but my kid was sent off for saying it in frustration in giving up a goal. Not at someone, just to herself. Only her and the referee heard it. That's fine if that's the rule, and I didn't complain in the moment. However, later in the game where "s" is being thrown around by the opposing team extremely loud and there's no pause in the game for at least a warning, that's when I got hot about it. I understand the levels and I'm all about the rule. The kids should be able to play without using the language and it's gotten extremely out of hand. I think good referees can talk the kids through it, warn them, yellow card them, etc. If it's a straight red though, then the consistently, as you said, is just not there. It's slowly verging on a moral issue that's going to continue to be harder and harder to officiate. Abusive language is definitely another thing. Red them all day for that, and it shouldn't even have to be using cuss words. Coaches have gotten out of hand in that respect as well. |
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Post by fifty50bawl on Feb 4, 2020 15:40:16 GMT -6
If a player gets a red card in the last match of regular play - does his "playoff" time get impacted?
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Post by time2retire on Feb 4, 2020 15:53:49 GMT -6
If a player gets a red card in the last match of regular play - does his "playoff" time get impacted? Yes |
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Post by time2retire on Feb 4, 2020 15:54:11 GMT -6
If a player gets a red card in the last match of regular play - does his "playoff" time get impacted? Yes Depends on the type of card and if it’s their first or second |
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Post by time2retire on Feb 5, 2020 7:53:34 GMT -6
152 as of this morning. I know a couple that did not get reported - shame on the referee for not turning those in. Needs to be a consequence for not completing this form.
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Post by time2retire on Feb 6, 2020 7:43:00 GMT -6
Up to 163 plus one incomplete report
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Post by fifty50bawl on Feb 20, 2020 11:15:19 GMT -6
is the "card" database accessible through LHSAA?
Lets say I wanted to know the most carded team in each division [yellows and red collectively]- how could I go about that?
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Post by time2retire on Feb 20, 2020 11:31:27 GMT -6
Yellows are not reported to LHSAA, reds are. They are not public reports.
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Post by fifty50bawl on Feb 20, 2020 11:36:46 GMT -6
Yellows are not reported to LHSAA, reds are. They are not public reports.  Wishful thinking. |
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Post by time2retire on Feb 20, 2020 14:45:54 GMT -6
Yellows are not reported to LHSAA, reds are. They are not public reports. Wishful thinking. I keep a spreadsheet of the red cards so I can easily access if it is a player's first/second/third and the reason behind the card, plus a few other metrics that contain sensitive information. I don't think it benefits anyone to say that Bayou HS got XX red cards this year. |
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Post by fifty50bawl on Feb 20, 2020 15:17:31 GMT -6
Wishful thinking. I keep a spreadsheet of the red cards so I can easily access if it is a player's first/second/third and the reason behind the card, plus a few other metrics that contain sensitive information. I don't think it benefits anyone to say that Bayou HS got XX red cards this year. well reds, no maybe not - but I was asking about all cards. Is it beneficial to know you are about the play the most carded team in the division? Could you be proactive and discuss composure and patience with the team.
What about if you are the most carded team in the division. Maybe you didn't realize your team is carded at twice the going rate of the rest of the division - info worth having?
My 2 cents, I would not say this information is not beneficial. I thought it was a stat that could be looked up. |
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Post by fifty50bawl on Feb 20, 2020 15:22:06 GMT -6
I guess your right, probably not a good idea.
it would start a bunch of "dirty team" finger pointing...
carry on, lol
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Post by cardsinhand on Feb 21, 2020 7:22:13 GMT -6
I keep a spreadsheet of the red cards so I can easily access if it is a player's first/second/third and the reason behind the card, plus a few other metrics that contain sensitive information. I don't think it benefits anyone to say that Bayou HS got XX red cards this year. well reds, no maybe not - but I was asking about all cards. Is it beneficial to know you are about the play the most carded team in the division? Could you be proactive and discuss composure and patience with the team.
What about if you are the most carded team in the division. Maybe you didn't realize your team is carded at twice the going rate of the rest of the division - info worth having?
My 2 cents, I would not say this information is not beneficial. I thought it was a stat that could be looked up. In college, when coaches exchange rosters, they are required to give the opposing coach a roster with the total number of cautions and send offs for each player on it. |
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Post by fifty50bawl on Feb 21, 2020 11:50:47 GMT -6
well reds, no maybe not - but I was asking about all cards. Is it beneficial to know you are about the play the most carded team in the division? Could you be proactive and discuss composure and patience with the team.
What about if you are the most carded team in the division. Maybe you didn't realize your team is carded at twice the going rate of the rest of the division - info worth having?
My 2 cents, I would not say this information is not beneficial. I thought it was a stat that could be looked up. In college, when coaches exchange rosters, they are required to give the opposing coach a roster with the total number of cautions and send offs for each player on it. Makes sense |
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Wishful thinking.