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Post by warrior16 on Mar 11, 2020 20:27:12 GMT -6
Two weeks later, and hosting the state finals would be hazardous, at best, and impossible, at worst.
The NBA has suspended its season tonight, with most sports activities nationwide likely to follow suit, as soon as tomorrow. March Madness will be played in empty arenas, if those games are even played at all now.
This coronavirus is no joke. Y'all stay safe out there.
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Post by DocT on Mar 11, 2020 20:46:16 GMT -6
All of this is dumb. Completely dumb. No one can simply have the flu or an upper respiratory infection anymore, it’s automatically the corona virus. The media is loving this. People are losing their minds. Not me
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Post by gallstar on Mar 11, 2020 21:05:58 GMT -6
All of this is dumb. Completely dumb. No one can simply have the flu or an upper respiratory infection anymore, it’s automatically the corona virus. The media is loving this. People are losing their minds. Not me Ditto! |
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Post by uhscubs1 on Mar 12, 2020 4:37:57 GMT -6
Don't lose your minds but take it very seriously.
Do not believe any numbers coming out of China. They shutdown most of their country over 3000+ deaths? Do you really believe they would have taken all the drastic measures they did for so few deaths?
Consider Wuhan, I had never heard it before but is over 11 million people and bigger than any US city proper. China shut it down.
Trump stopped travel to China very early and was criticized for it and now those same folks are saying he is not doing enough. Trump probably should have shut down all the borders then but the out cry would have been horrendous.
One of the big issues of this virus is how rapid it spreads and how it will overwhelm any health care system if not checked very early.
Italy did not follow our lead in stopping travel to China and are paying a heavy price. Iran as well. Europe is starting to see it as well. Pray we are in time.
Pray that it turns out to be nothing.
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Post by istina on Mar 12, 2020 7:33:38 GMT -6
since last October, the CDC has tallied over 12,000 deaths due to influenza. The Corona virus has tallied 3800 since November. You are correct to be judicious in public, but there have only been 115,000 cases worldwide. How many cases of the flu have their been worldwide since the covid-19 appeared? We are much less concerned about the flu than this virus, why? Interesting read below, chilling facts about the flu. weather.com/health/cold-flu/news/2019-02-15-flu-season-vaccine-illnesses-deaths |
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Post by soccerlover47 on Mar 12, 2020 8:15:00 GMT -6
These attachments speak for themselves. The coronavirus is a new strand of the flu. The media is overly saying that this virus is much, much worse than it is. The coronavirus is simply something that has always been there, but there are high and lows. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 8:59:14 GMT -6
These attachments speak for themselves. The coronavirus is a new strand of the flu. The media is overly saying that this virus is much, much worse than it is. The coronavirus is simply something that has always been there, but there are high and lows. Yeah the NBA and NCAA are a couple of wussy organizations. Who needs billions of dollars of revenue? Personally, I go around licking door handles. Trying to catch this thing and show the dam media it's nothing to worry about. Will post my results. |
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Post by soccerlover47 on Mar 12, 2020 9:05:50 GMT -6
These attachments speak for themselves. The coronavirus is a new strand of the flu. The media is overly saying that this virus is much, much worse than it is. The coronavirus is simply something that has always been there, but there are high and lows. Yeah the NBA and NCAA are a couple of wussy organizations. Who needs billions of dollars of revenue? Personally, I go around licking door handles. Trying to catch this thing and show the dam media it's nothing to worry about. Will post my results. I am not saying it shouldn't be taken seriously. I am simply saying that the media is overexaggerating the results of the virus profusely, and this isn't completely unwarranted. Any new virus that grows this fast should be kept an eye on. The virus IS serious, don't get me wrong, but the sheer results of what it has done is not what the media makes it out to be. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 9:09:57 GMT -6
Yeah the NBA and NCAA are a couple of wussy organizations. Who needs billions of dollars of revenue? Personally, I go around licking door handles. Trying to catch this thing and show the dam media it's nothing to worry about. Will post my results. I am not saying it shouldn't be taken seriously. I am simply saying that the media is overexaggerating the results of the virus profusely, and this isn't completely unwarranted. Any new virus that grows this fast should be kept an eye on. The virus IS serious, don't get me wrong, but the sheer results of what it has done is not what the media makes it out to be. No I'm agreeing with you. Wouldn't shock me if it was the New York Times that brought it over here. Fricking lib media. Especially those death totals in China I mean cmon China is super honest they would definitely tell people. |
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Post by warrior16 on Mar 12, 2020 9:18:41 GMT -6
Coronavirus has come in many strands over the years, including the SARS virus back in 2003. While it's symptoms are often similar to the flu and the common cold, it is a distinct virus. Both this particular strand, and coronavirus in general. Some of the reasons this virus is much more concerning than the seasonal flu are essentially:
A) Unlike the flu, there is no vaccine for coronavirus, and there almost certainly won't be for at least 12-18 more months.
B) Unlike the flu or common cold, our immune systems have never yet been exposed to such a viral strand, and have no antibodies ready to fight the initial infection. While this won't be an issue for most people that read this board, even if we get infected, for an elderly person with health problems, such exposure could be fatal. That's what we're seeing in Italy right now.
It's not so much the lethality rate of the disease that is worrying. It's how easily this virus seems to spread. And as I mentioned above, we have no vaccines yet or antibodies to fight initial exposure. A much higher percentage of those exposed to this coronavirus will be infected, compared to most strands of the seasonal flu. And it takes several days to show symptoms, so people are contracting the virus and unknowingly spreading it to many other people before realizing they've been infected.
A pandemic like this does not have to wipe out a bunch of people to be a disaster. This thing could quickly get to the point where so many people are hospitalized that it overwhelms our entire medical industry. Italy has already reached that point where they are choosing which patients are worth treating and which are too far gone, since they don't have the capacity to treat all those infected. Not to mention the ripple affect it has on people needing hospital treatment for other things. It's gonna have a huge negative affect on the economy until things calm down. We're already seeing that.
While I agree there has been a good amount of media fearmongering and overreaction, I think the NBA made the right decision to suspend the season after Ruby Gobert tested positive for the virus. Every player, coach, referee, or otherwise who came into contact with him over the past two weeks is at risk of contracting the virus. Some likely already have. The risk is too great for the league to continue play until things calm down. Best to err on the side of caution.
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Post by kevin on Mar 12, 2020 10:00:44 GMT -6
This is a big deal and people need to take it seriously. Look at these charts of Italy and the US: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_pandemic_data/United_States_medical_cases_charten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_pandemic_data/Italy_medical_cases_chartIf we don't want to be where Italy is 11 days from now, we need to be taking steps now to deal with this. If you catch this, it appears to be much deadlier than the flu. And exponential growth is a powerful thing--the number of cases is likely to increase incredibly rapidly. It seems that young people are much less likely to die from coronavirus than older people; unfortunately, the only data I can find is based solely on China up through February 11th. I don't know what the death rates are by age if you look at Italy or any of the other affected countries. If you're over the age of 50, you should be very, very concerned by this. The kids are probably going to be fine, but what if they spread it to parents or grandparents? I'm not here to boss people around and tell them what to do. But I believe it is extremely likely that within the next two weeks, lots of events (including youth soccer games) will be canceled by state, local, and federal governments. |
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Post by uhscubs1 on Mar 12, 2020 10:58:52 GMT -6
Death rate in Italy is around 5% and the "regular" flu is typically around 1%.
If you believe the numbers coming out of China, well good luck!
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Post by jlwarner on Mar 13, 2020 9:20:30 GMT -6
Not sure I understand what people get out of this by downplaying it. We have more to lose if the downplaying angle is wrong than if we take the necessary precautions which unfortunately will disrupt our day to day lives, at least for the next few weeks.
Something not mentioned yet, and very important in the situation is the roughly week long incubation period. All the data we are seeing is a reflection of pre-existing spread, what we are detecting is largely among the worst cases- the ones meeting criteria for testing. We are literally at least 5 days behind identifying cases and even then, this assumes we are testing widely. Which, relative to S. Korea at least, we are doing a terrible job at.
We are looking at a serious stress test for a variety of crucial systems. It will spread widely (and already has), this much is clear. If we don't take this seriously (or "overly" serious) then we are ensuring more strain on the healthcare industry as a whole...which I think already struggles to meet pre-existing needs of the population in certain places. I'd like to note that folks working in this industry don't have substitutes when they get sick. Read about healthcare workers in Italy. They are begging people to stay indoors not out of immediate safety concerns per se, but to ensure they're not passing it to others and exacerbating and already rough situation by placing more strain on already stretched resources.
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Post by firebruin on Mar 13, 2020 12:40:37 GMT -6
No school until April 13.
No soccer for an indefinite period.
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