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Post by soccerinthemouth on Jan 23, 2023 16:15:26 GMT -6
Question for you guys:
Team A has a grass field that holds water. They are scheduled to host team B for a district contest with predicted heavy rain. Team B offers their turf field for the game instead, but team A declines. Game time arrives and the field is unplayable. What's the scenario? Does team A forfeit since they declined a playable surface?
Edit: Team A *should* be forced to forfeit in this scenario, but I don't know what the rulebook says.
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Post by kevin on Jan 23, 2023 18:30:28 GMT -6
That's not really a ref question. The NFHS rules state that the home team can determine whether the field is safe or not before the start of the game. After the game begins, it's up to the referee. But in this situation, it would come down to any district rules that might be in place. My guess is that most districts probably will understand that teams don't want to give up their home games. I find it incredibly unlikely that any district would demand a forfeit in this scenario. In all likelihood, the game would be rescheduled (which I know can start to get tricky at the end of the season).
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Post by soccerinthemouth on Jan 24, 2023 7:41:24 GMT -6
That's not really a ref question. The NFHS rules state that the home team can determine whether the field is safe or not before the start of the game. After the game begins, it's up to the referee. But in this situation, it would come down to any district rules that might be in place. My guess is that most districts probably will understand that teams don't want to give up their home games. I find it incredibly unlikely that any district would demand a forfeit in this scenario. In all likelihood, the game would be rescheduled (which I know can start to get tricky at the end of the season). So it's what I thought it was. They *SHOULD* be forced to forfeit but wont be. If you're offered a playable alternative and turn it down, that should be a forfeit. Full stop. You chose not to play. |
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Post by Skippers on Jan 24, 2023 14:07:05 GMT -6
Question for you guys: Team A has a grass field that holds water. They are scheduled to host team B for a district contest with predicted heavy rain. Team B offers their turf field for the game instead, but team A declines. Game time arrives and the field is unplayable. What's the scenario? Does team A forfeit since they declined a playable surface? Edit: Team A *should* be forced to forfeit in this scenario, but I don't know what the rulebook says. On game day, if it is determined that the field is not safe play, you must come up with a different date. Team A does not have a move the game to Team B - even if Team B has offered their brand new - dry in 20 minutes - turf field. Team A is smart and knows playing in mud is an advantage to the team. Home field advantage I suppose. |
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Post by Tank on Jan 24, 2023 15:06:23 GMT -6
That's not really a ref question. The NFHS rules state that the home team can determine whether the field is safe or not before the start of the game. After the game begins, it's up to the referee. But in this situation, it would come down to any district rules that might be in place. My guess is that most districts probably will understand that teams don't want to give up their home games. I find it incredibly unlikely that any district would demand a forfeit in this scenario. In all likelihood, the game would be rescheduled (which I know can start to get tricky at the end of the season). So it's what I thought it was. They *SHOULD* be forced to forfeit but wont be. If you're offered a playable alternative and turn it down, that should be a forfeit. Full stop. You chose not to play.  |
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Post by soccerinthemouth on Jan 25, 2023 9:20:54 GMT -6
If you're offered a safe dry surface and turn it down, that's a forfeit. I don't care about your "home game" or "home field advantage". It's tacky and it's bad sportsmanship. You chose not to play, so you forfeited the game. I'll die on that hill.
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Post by rlb2024 on Jan 25, 2023 9:46:39 GMT -6
There may be a lot of logistics involved. If it’s a district game, how big is the district? Could Team A line up transportation at the last minute, especially outside of NO and BR where it can be a 2-hour drive for a district game? Can the game be safely rescheduled before the cutoff date?
It’s not always as cut-and-dried as it may seem.
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Post by soccerbr on Jan 25, 2023 11:32:14 GMT -6
There may be a lot of logistics involved. If it’s a district game, how big is the district? Could Team A line up transportation at the last minute, especially outside of NO and BR where it can be a 2-hour drive for a district game? Can the game be safely rescheduled before the cutoff date? It’s not always as cut-and-dried as it may seem. And school administration also has to be at all games, so an away game may not work with the administrators schedule, if it is a long distance. There are also budgetary considerations as well. |
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Post by Skippers on Jan 25, 2023 12:47:06 GMT -6
If you're offered a safe dry surface and turn it down, that's a forfeit. I don't care about your "home game" or "home field advantage". It's tacky and it's bad sportsmanship. You chose not to play, so you forfeited the game. I'll die on that hill. This happens more than people think. |
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Post by time2retire on Jan 25, 2023 13:37:19 GMT -6
Not just that but if it’s a different area for referees, you’ll have to make sure you have some available. Good luck with that last minute. I’ve already bailed out 2 games outside of my area and had to deny a 3rd.
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Post by Futbol-Fan on Jan 28, 2023 19:04:21 GMT -6
If you're offered a safe dry surface and turn it down, that's a forfeit. I don't care about your "home game" or "home field advantage". It's tacky and it's bad sportsmanship. You chose not to play, so you forfeited the game. I'll die on that hill. Several factors to consider besides the obvious home field advantage. We’ll bring flowers to your grave since you will “die on that hill.”  j/k |
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Post by happyjack on Jan 28, 2023 20:03:54 GMT -6
If you're offered a safe dry surface and turn it down, that's a forfeit. I don't care about your "home game" or "home field advantage". It's tacky and it's bad sportsmanship. You chose not to play, so you forfeited the game. I'll die on that hill. I’m sure your funeral will be well attended. |
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Post by dme1214 on Jan 29, 2023 13:42:48 GMT -6
If you're offered a safe dry surface and turn it down, that's a forfeit. I don't care about your "home game" or "home field advantage". It's tacky and it's bad sportsmanship. You chose not to play, so you forfeited the game. I'll die on that hill. Several factors to consider besides the obvious home field advantage. We’ll bring flowers to your grave since you will “die on that hill.” j/k So no flowers?!? |
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j/k