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Post by m on Mar 5, 2007 19:55:27 GMT -6
So Vandebilt has a faculty coach? Yes Doug Hamilton is a faculty coach (and an alumnus of Vandebilt). He's also coaches cross country.
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Post by soccerjunqie on Mar 5, 2007 20:37:42 GMT -6
I heard stm recruits soccer players??? No, they recruit cheerleaders and dancers. Their teams are national champions or something like that. Their soccer players are usually cast offs from other Lafayette area teams or at least that is what I heard. Maybe it was their quiz bowl team that I'm thinking of?
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Post by muhammadjihad on Mar 5, 2007 21:43:32 GMT -6
bluetic knows what he is talking about...he summed it up perfectly
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Post by maketherun on Mar 5, 2007 22:04:13 GMT -6
oldphart -- Your post does not stink.
Socio-economics, tradition/legacy, academics all contribute to the draw of the Catholic High Schools.
Also, transferring (out of district) students ARE subject to eligibility restrictions their first year. This is usually not an issue since most Catholic High Schools have eighth grade academics. Freshman participating in interscholastic competition have usually been at their school for a year already.
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Post by ostrya on Mar 7, 2007 21:27:35 GMT -6
Do all Catholic schools have soccer coaches on the faculty? Or at least all the #1 in the state schools?
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Post by Forgotten North on Mar 8, 2007 8:34:11 GMT -6
One thing that I haven't heard is that recruiting in and of itself is actually legal. Undue influence is what is illegal. That is to say that a coach or member of the faculty can approach a player about playing a sport at a school. I know that I have talked to many players about attending the private school that I have coached. I tell them about the school, the academics, the staff, and the multitude of resources. Then I advise them that we have a person on staff that is almost solely dedicated to college placement and maximizing scholarship options. Our private school students usually obtains over a million dollars in scholarships for less than 100 graduates. (That figure is somewhat inflated because they take the total sum of all scholarships offered at all schools.)
Do I mention soccer? Sure I do, and generally that is what I would like from that student. We offer no scholarships for any sport. However, we do offer academic scholarships, and we have a little under 30% of students on some sort of scholarships. The percentage of soccer players that receive academic scholarships is far lower. These conversation are usually less than 10 minutes long and done out in public with the parents present. Generally the parents and kids will show some interest, and I will give them the information for the admissions counselor. After that I generally have little contact with the student since I am a non-faculty coach.
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Post by mymommadetherice13 on Mar 8, 2007 11:43:17 GMT -6
well, everybody knows curtis recruits, thats a gimme...but then again who cares because they are a football school not soccer. while there may be recruiting by NO schools(although doubtful), this subject constantly is brought up by misltek regarding vandebilt. personally i think all of these recruiting accusations come out jealousy..which it probably is.
now to clear things up, it is not illegal for a team to say "hey, you should come see our school, we have good academics...etc...etc..." and make that kid pay full tuition to go there. what is illegal is to say "hey, you should come see our school, we have good academics, and if you come we will pay your tuition...etc...etc..." and that, with little doubt in my mind, is not done by any schools....ESPECIALLY not vandebilt. vandebilt does offer tuition assistance, just as does every school in the state, but only to the people that need it. (of course i am sure all of you ignoramus' will say 'sureeee of course its only to the ones that "need" it' but once again i think that is just jealousy) so i think i am clear enough, i dont know what it will take to get it through you people's heads...but most every school does not recruit, there may be a couple, but not all...and espcially not vandy.
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Post by mymommadetherice13 on Mar 8, 2007 11:45:06 GMT -6
and if a school does recruit, its usually for any other sport except soccer...b/c face it no one really cares about soccer in louisiana mind for the ones that play it
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Post by guccimane23 on Mar 13, 2007 17:26:14 GMT -6
Take it one step further and ALL 6 winners are non-public schools.
Girls Div I- Dominican Girls Div II- SSA Girls Div III Newman
All 6 are non public schools. Any thoughrts? .....
looks like your non-public school education has gotten you far on your spelling
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Post by Bish on Mar 14, 2007 17:20:54 GMT -6
Take it one step further and ALL 6 winners are non-public schools. Girls Div I- Dominican Girls Div II- SSA Girls Div III Newman All 6 are non public schools. Any thoughrts? ..... looks like your non-public school education has gotten you far on your spelling Worst first post ever.
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Post by ostrya on Mar 14, 2007 19:25:14 GMT -6
Since we can't agree on recruiting, are there any other factors that might give private schools an advantage in soccer? How many players also play select? Do they have full time faculty coaches? Are there any other explanations?
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Post by lakeview on Mar 14, 2007 19:36:05 GMT -6
Guys, I've watched St Pauls, Jesuit, Brother Martin, and Rummel for several years and only can think of one questionable case - when Gus V left FHS to play at StPauls. That's all that even looked funny. All the other players came up through the ranks. Frankie left Rummel b/c he lived just a few miles from St Pauls after the 8th grade, and Duncan, I believe left BM same as Frankie.
Recruiting in soccer, at least in the NO area, and on the Northshore, ain't happening.
Now St Aug, I know of a specific case with a basketball player. The father told me.
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Post by misltek on Mar 14, 2007 21:48:28 GMT -6
Since we can't agree on recruiting, are there any other factors that might give private schools an advantage in soccer? How many players also play select? Do they have full time faculty coaches? Are there any other explanations? The private schools all have money. It costs to go there (unless you got recruited). The parents of the players who go there are probably well-off and can afford to send their kids to camps, sign them up for select, travel, etc....and I'm sure some schools hire full-time faculty coaches. All of these factors can refine an average player's skills to make him (and a team) more to contend with, but anyone with the natural talent and ability (regardless of financial status) is going to own the field. Since we're on the issue of financial wellness, let's compare basketball to soccer. How many private schools were in the basketball finals? How many of them won it all?
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