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Post by lvvillain16 on Feb 24, 2003 21:58:17 GMT -6
by they way i know this is the club soccer forum but if you want bad parents go to brother martin soccer game. i am a student at brother martin and i am embarrassed to sit anywhere near the parent section durning a varsity match. those people are problably the loudest, most clueless people i have ever listened to. i am ashamed that parents couldnt be a bit more supportive of their kids rather than complaining about the referees or kids on the other team
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Post by guilty on Mar 9, 2003 15:16:35 GMT -6
I am 1 of those loud-mouthed embarassing parents. I will try to do better this season.
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Post by WMASSASSIN21 on Apr 6, 2003 17:29:13 GMT -6
Last year there was a select tournament in texarkana a relatively small tournament but those who were there will understand this "ELBOW TO ELBOW"-A VERY ANNOYING PARENT-
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Post by coach ref player parent on Apr 6, 2003 20:36:19 GMT -6
I am a parent, coach, player and ref. You are right about parents, but don't forget that the kids/players dispute almost every call the ref makes, so do coaches. I think everyone needs to give the refs a break. We need refs. They are doing their best. They make mistakes, but so do coaches and players. Ever make a bad pass, a bad shot or a bad trap? You bet. Ever had a ref yell at you after that? NO! So, bad call or good call, play with your feet, not your mouth.
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Post by guilty 2 on Apr 7, 2003 8:59:35 GMT -6
My kid played this weekend in a rec+ tournement and our parents were not very well behaved. I noticed this when I decided to walk away from the crowd and realized just how bad we sounded since I was guilty myself. Let me say that alot of us are not ignorant of the game. Several of us have taken referee classes and coached at the lower level when our kids were younger so we do have some knowledge of the game since most referees assume that all parents are ignorant of the game.
I am the first to admit that our kids play on a team that on their best day could not beat some teams on their worst. They play on a true rec team without tryouts and several kids have not stepped on a soccer field until this year at fifteen years old. This is not an excuse for their losses this weekend and I am not blaming anyone. In addition, I make sure that my kid realizes that you need to go and win the game yourself and that a referee doe not lose it for you.
However, it hurts when you see your kids play their heart out the entire game to lose by a goal because of a missed offsides call when a line judge is not in position to make the call or lose another because of a questionable call for a tackle when the kid gets all ball coming from the front. What made the siuation worse this weekend was that the referees and line judges would make sly comments to the parents that would only incite more verbal bickering instead of stopping the game and getting control of it. If truth be told, the reason I am writing this is because my son's coached called him after the game and asked him if the referee had cursed at some of the players while on the field.
Do I know the answer to this problem? Not really, and I am not pointing the finger at any one side in this argument since there is plently of blame to go around. What I do know is that something needs to be done for the sake of our kids before the games get even uglier. Are you listening LSA? Maybe having parents attend a class on the game and learning more about it or having them sit further away from the field. Maybe having referees attend classes on crowd control or paying more to get better qualified referees would help.
In conclusion, all of the adults, parents and referees, need to take time out to understand the reason we are at the game in the first place. It's not about us, it's about the kids.
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Post by timaeus on Apr 7, 2003 12:26:25 GMT -6
I think the reason we have soccer, and sports in general, is to first, teach sportsmanship. Second, it is to have fun. In those two aspects, it can be for both the players and the parents. Parents and players need to learn to accept victory and defeat as sideproducts of the ultimate goals of sports. Needless to say, victory is usually thought of as the ultimate goal these days (take V. Lombardi's quote "Winning isn't everything. It's the only thing). This thought is so wrong, and it has nothing to do with sports. This is the thought of a spoiled kid.
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Post by WMASSASSIN21 on Apr 12, 2003 7:01:03 GMT -6
i think it has gotten out of hand as far as parents go i vote tournaments games...etc be played with the kids the ref the coaches and a video camera if the parents feel urged to watch and yell at the tv for a previously recorded game then let them
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Post by #19 on Apr 12, 2003 20:48:02 GMT -6
I was reffing a game at the S'port tournament today that was pretty physical. Every sinle cal, no matter what it was, this one team's parents were screaming the whole time. I'm not sure where they're from, but it was the U-11 or U-12 "Milan". And by the way, I would only argue with mabye two of the calls the center ref made. One of the coaches even had to be ejected. It was terrible.
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