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Post by usasoccerboy on Dec 6, 2005 22:27:08 GMT -6
The USA was the best team to miss out for a top seed, yet lousy crappy Mexico gets a top seed. How in the world did that crap happen. Mexico sucks.
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Post by dego54 on Dec 7, 2005 10:51:13 GMT -6
Hey yo, don't be bashing Mexico. They are one of the best teams in the world. In the last World Cup when Mexico and USA played, USA cheated so bad. Mexico deserves the top seed spot. Team USA sucks at soccer.
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Post by manudown on Dec 7, 2005 20:34:06 GMT -6
USA cheated? I think not, Mexico were outclassed in that game by the US squad. While it was a close game that Mexico won in Mexico, the return leg in US was dominated by the US. Away from either home, USA has also done better, so look for it again this year.
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Post by ronaldo11 on Dec 9, 2005 8:34:48 GMT -6
Well I must say that its unfortunately the appearance of mexico in the confederations cup that only just pushed them ahead of usa. It was close, very close.
When USA beat Mexico in the qualifying, it was largely due to a coaching error at half time from the mexican coach. He changed the formation, when really mexico had more of the first half. No cheating anywhere.
However, when USA played in Mexico and lost, USA showed absolutely nothing to suggest they were better. If you look at Mexico's goals; they were both due to the absolutely terrible american defence. My pub team could have scored goals against them.
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Post by usasoccerboy on Dec 9, 2005 19:12:12 GMT -6
This argument is easy.
Last 10 games, USA 7 wins, 2 ties, and only 1 loss at Azteca.
Mexico SUCK!
They will never have and never will get to a WC quarterfinal unless they get to play in Azteca.
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Post by manudown on Dec 10, 2005 9:53:32 GMT -6
What a draw for the US. Italy, Ghana, and the Czechs. Ghana looks to be the esiest, but lately Italy has been falling way short of their standars on the big international stages, so maybe that will be an easier game than 10/12 years ago. The Czechs are also playing some good football right now, so look for them to be a stiff challenge.
My Predictions
Czech 7 pts
USA 5 pts
Italy 4 pts
Ghana 0 pts
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Post by Ronaldinho15 on Dec 10, 2005 12:22:04 GMT -6
HAHA Mexico DOES NOT SUCK, the US is just a little better. Both are outstanding teams, and the reason for the US not getting seeded above Mexico is based on the US performance in the 98 world cup, in which we got dead last, 32nd.
I believe the US WILL get 2nd in the group, but if i am not mistaken, the 2nd place team from US group plays winner of group F, in which the favorites are by far brazil. That is not so good to say the least.
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Post by manudown on Dec 10, 2005 12:25:29 GMT -6
Brasil is beatable, just as is every other team, so the US needs to not focus on who they MIGHT play in the later stages but who they DO play in the group stages... That is what several teams do and end up getting burned for it.
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Post by coachray40 on Dec 10, 2005 17:43:54 GMT -6
Terrible draw for the US--especially for a European World Cup. US ties Italy 1-1, beats Ghana 3-1, and loses to Czech Republic 2-0, finish third in Bracket and go home
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Post by usasoccerboy on Dec 12, 2005 16:44:13 GMT -6
I agree with most of you all's insight into the draw.
I agree that the USA doesn't have to worry about teams down the road.
What worries me, is that the USA traditionally does not do well against european teams in europe, and they played two of these teams in the 90 world cup. I think they can win it just as Italy and the Czechs can. If anyone can lead the team to do this, it is Bruce Arena as he has done it at every level thrown at him.
As someone said above, the 98 WC is what made us miss out on a seed. If the USA put in one more goal, after hitting the woodwork over 10 times in the 98 WC, then they would have been a #1 seed. But so what, you play who is given to you, and if it is tough draw, then so be it. I know that Arena and his players will not be scared, but I will be, as if we crash out early, then it will take another 8 years to wash it away in order to get a top seeding at a cup.
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Post by db on Dec 14, 2005 15:02:39 GMT -6
The U.S. has got a really hard bracket. I think that it is this years bracket of death as they call it. 3 out of the 4 teams are in the top 12 in the world. Czech are 2. U.S. 8. and Italy are 12. This is going to be a really exciting group stage in June.
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Post by manudown on Dec 14, 2005 18:32:01 GMT -6
There is no way the Czechs are number 2... The real group of death will be the one with Argentina and Holland in it.
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Post by missingmyteam on Dec 15, 2005 21:23:19 GMT -6
Hey yo, don't be bashing Mexico. They are one of the best teams in the world. In the last World Cup when Mexico and USA played, USA cheated so bad. Mexico deserves the top seed spot. Team USA sucks at soccer. so u live in the USA yet you hate them? well until Mexico get to the top 8 in the world(like the usa did last world cup)then you can say something bout the USA suxing |
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Post by missingmyteam on Dec 15, 2005 21:24:22 GMT -6
Brasil will take the cup again this world cup.......check out their freaking line up........superstars all the way
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