weeman5
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Post by weeman5 on Jan 30, 2005 16:58:25 GMT -6
I have a great idea for you. If my post make your eyes bleed then don't read them. Speaking of pointless post, I think your hero Rainbowcycle is undoubtedly the most pointless poster on this whole forum. In my opinion the drivel Rainbow posts brings the word pointless to an all new level. Rainbow your my hero!!! I need you!!!!
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Post by FanoSoccer on Jan 30, 2005 17:23:50 GMT -6
I agree with coachray and hdkjga that 19-1 was unnecessary and discouraging to St. Aug. Rather than comment on another team's motives, I would like to commend the coaching staff of Brother Martin, particularly Coach Deritter, for their handling of games vs. St. Aug. Before a recent home game vs. St. Aug, Coach Deritter had the Brother Martin players team with a player on the Purple Knights on skills in the pre-game warmup. After the game the players and parents were invited to tailgate with the BM players and parents.
A number of St. Aug players stayed after their Wed. game against Holy Cross and sat behind the bench of Brother Martin as a sign of apprecation and support at the Wed. night game vs. Jesuit
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Post by bouree on Jan 30, 2005 17:38:12 GMT -6
Life is not about soccer, it is about honoring God by respecting our fellow brothers. I don't see any respect in defeating a team to this extent. Being a Catholic school, one would think the players would have been more understanding towards their apponents and done everything in their power to "pull back". I'm sure this is what the Brothers teach in religion class. I play too and have been in such circumstances. My team always finds a way to defeat the other team honorably, without it looking like we were rubbing it in their faces. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
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Post by rocksccrstar on Jan 30, 2005 17:45:37 GMT -6
As the coach of a team that has had taken their fair share of beatings this season I want to thank all of the coaches who did not "take it easy on my boys." The main thing I teach my kids is to never give up, no matter what the score is, because I know that my boys will leave a game feeling good, even if they lose, if they know that they played their best game. For example, in the beginning of the season we took a royal beating from Lafayette, but the boys were proud of themselves because they played hard against a better team (defending state champs) and they never gave up.
It happens, I remember when Salmen first started their men's program, they took some beatings (bad) but they hung with it and look at their program now. So to St.. Aug, keep your head up, play your game, and be proud of the things you do accomplish, even if they are small. And remember playing teams of Jesuit's caliber can only help you improve your game.
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Post by shellshocker on Jan 30, 2005 18:23:27 GMT -6
I have a question for msc18. Didn't you just play for a Slidell club team that kept getting pounded 10-0 and 11-0, so everyone quit? And now you play for Mandeville, but your teammates quit club ball alltogether? Where is the sportsmanship now?
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Post by ostrya on Jan 30, 2005 19:09:44 GMT -6
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. Mt 5:7 from the Gospel for the 4th Sunday of Ordinary Time 1/30
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Post by lhssoccerfan on Jan 30, 2005 19:46:47 GMT -6
Soccer is an "Old Testament " sport...
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Post by Ronaldinho15 on Jan 30, 2005 20:49:27 GMT -6
I thought Jesuit were better sportsman than what they have just shown. 19-1, there is absolutely NO need for such an excessive amount of goals like that. Put in your JV and let them brag about playin some varsity for Jesuit, but this is downright unrespectful. I wonder if anyone of the Jesuit players actually knows how it feels to be beaten 5-0 let alone 19-1. I bet some of them have never lost, and feel the agony of defeat. PROPS to St Augustine for scoring on them though, thats a feat that most teams in LA couldnt do.
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Post by Hooligan on Jan 30, 2005 21:10:58 GMT -6
PROPS to St Augustine for scoring on them though, thats a feat that most teams in LA couldnt do. Am I the only one, or is some of this bashing have to do with the school that scored so much? I agree with Wolfrock... in that more time could be spent talking about how St. Aug scored on Jesuit. I'll bet that St. Aug will build more on that than however many goals they gave up. Finally, who of you have ever seen/played in a game where the dominant team does as they are expected, dominate, and when it's over knowone really knows what the score ended up being? It didn't really matter.........
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Post by upper90 on Jan 30, 2005 21:58:08 GMT -6
why would a team as classy as jesuit score 19 goals on a first year program? but i do agree with those other ones...at least st augistine did score 1 no matter which goalie and which players they had in...
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Post by coach4365 on Jan 30, 2005 22:02:15 GMT -6
Rainbow... I am jumping on the wagon with the indians! I hope you know how to jump and duck!
I like to know how 19-1 is OK. It suks. There could not possibly be a kid or a parent on St. Aug. team that would have gotten anything positive out of that game.
Classless Act.
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JHS75
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Post by JHS75 on Jan 30, 2005 22:59:49 GMT -6
Several posters have made comments that Jesuit should have put in their "scrubs" or played their JV are obviously unaware of and / or have not read my previous post. Jesuit played it's entire bench. They started their first string and within 5 minutes began their normal rotation ( 5 or 6 subs ) and ended the half with theses subs. The balance of the players either started or were subbed in early in the second half. The "scrubs" played and played hard, for them this was their varsity season. The JV is the JV and are only at the games on the spectator side, in attendance as support and not dressed for play. I assume you are suggesting that these athletes ( scrubs) who only get one or two opportunities all season to earn varsity playing time lay down or not perform to their full ability.
In regards to poor sportsmanship, in my previous post I spoke of the score not as significant as the attitude and demeanor of the Jesuit players being more important than the mounting score. I refer you to Webster's dictionary where a sportsman is defined as a person who BEHAVES generously in victory or defeat. The behaviour of the athlete is what determines sportsmanship not the score. As I said earlier I saw and no one has claimed the jesuit players taunted, made fun, ridiculed, or otherwise were disrespectful to St augustine. Play the game as it was intended and the score is the score.
In closing, I have never seen a group whine about a lopsided score as some on this soccer board. I have coached at various levels in various sports and have always asked my players to play to the best of their ability, win or loose. The reference to running up the score is not a Christian act has nothing to do with this sport. If the players would taunt or beliitle an opponet that would be unChristian. When an athlete usesthe talent God has given him to the best of his ability this is not an unChristian act.
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Post by rocksccrstar on Jan 30, 2005 23:34:01 GMT -6
JHS,
I don't have any problem with Jesuit or St. Aug, what I do have a problem with is that we as posters (and I can be guilty too) are quick to put a team down rather than praise something positive like St. Aug scoring on Jesuit (some of the best teams in the state didn't do that). I think it is awesome that they are trying to start a team and given the nature of their school (private) and their reputation in High school athletics I don't think it will be long before they have a program that will be competing with the likes of Jesuit.
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Post by ostrya on Jan 31, 2005 0:02:49 GMT -6
Hmm, if the score of the first game was 15-0, it sounds like the second game would have been a good time to rest the starters for the playoffs. Or suit up the jv.
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Post by thisboardsuxs on Jan 31, 2005 11:36:36 GMT -6
Wow, is this what we have to talk about with the playoffs right around the corner. First off i am going to bash a few. the only people you really see on this board are from joke for programs. Coach ray just shut up. AND FOR ALL YOU WHO HAVE NEVER PLAYED JESUIT WE HAVE NOT SCRUBS PERIOD. ANY COMBINATION OF PLAYERS IN OUR PROGRAM CAN THROW 19 UP ON BAD TEAMS. The people out there crying are jealous of our program and well should be. The best thing i got form this board this year was coach ray getting kick off a mderator nice. your points are useless and to use the board as a place to find games wow what a joke of a program.
have a good one all keep being jealous of JESUIT
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Post by raoul1 on Jan 31, 2005 12:14:34 GMT -6
Class? Sure, that's what we are talking about. Jesuit exhibited the same class that they did after the state finals last year when a number of their players refused to shake hands, clap or acknowledge Lafayette High (The current state champs-until further notice) when the awards were presented. Lot's of class(all of it LOW). GO LIONS!!
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Post by lhssoccerfan on Jan 31, 2005 12:35:30 GMT -6
For shame thisboardsuxs...I have to say that I have watched the posts on this board for a while and wondered, with great respect by the way, why Jesuit fans and players for the most part didn't choose to participate as much as I would have thought.
I have to say that I didn't suspect that the Jesuit players, and I hope I'm right, did not rub St. Augustine's nose in the dirt. Personally, I put in a post downplaying the skewed score, recognizing that Jesuit is plain and simply that good. Someone even stated that Jesuit should have played their 8th graders, which I kind of thought might be insulting to the St. Augustine players, but I held my piece. There were also pleas for the mercy rule, which as a former athlete and I'm sure all of the St. Augustine players, would never subscribe to. If I get beat that badly, it just means I have a lot of work to do to improve...It actually becomes my mission if I am a real athlete, which I trust all of the St. Augustine players are.
So my perception of the Jesuit program was positive until you showed up. Now, I'm not so sure! You come in like a bull in a china closet bashing this forum with a botched up screen name and attack a guy that I think most of the people recognize as one of the most principled coaches as well as most knowledgeable guys in regards to soccer in Louisiana. I don't believe for a minute that CoachRay meant his post to be personally insulting to Jesuit, but only used it as an example to express an opinion, which was followed by everybody else's opinion...So what?
I can assure you that your post, not the score of the game, is a substantial stain on the integrity of the Jesuit program, which I don't think was in question before you threw your two cents in.
There are those that believe that perception is reality. I often say, there is no reality, only perception. Hopefully, the perception of your post does not reflect the reality of the attitude and character of Jesuit players, coaches, and fans...I'm certain it does not!
And by the way, brush up on your grammar and rhetoric just a bit...Bashers who can't spell usually don't get a lot of respect...
I also noticed that this was your first post...Great potential for an analogy here. Much like St. Augustine, you certainly have a lot of room for improvement...
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Post by raoul1 on Jan 31, 2005 12:57:39 GMT -6
Puh-leeze lhssoccerfan---You sound like a philosophy major. Spare us the existentialism.
The "reality" is that everyone in the stands at the finals last year "perceived" the poor sportsmanship and lack of class demonstrated by the Bluejays during and after the award ceremony.
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Post by coachray40 on Jan 31, 2005 13:55:41 GMT -6
Okay, well............seems the testosterone level is high in this forum. thisboardsux, but your on it, so.........
Props to St Aug for scoring--and no disrepect was intended for them.
I think most people are just very surprised at the score because Jesuit was involved--we all had higher opinions. I really dont think anyone is jealous of Jesuit--we all know the Blue Jays are an excellent side, with the most talent in the state. I think the use of the word scrubs might have been taken out of context, what Jesuit has as its "scrubs" would win most districts. I also think most of us "joke-for-programs" would want to pattern our programs after Jesuit (maybe not as much now). As imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, I would look at that as respect, not jealous envy. I also agree that after 15-0 in the first game, the possibility of letting the JV play the next time could have been considered, but hey thats the coach's call, and the program at Jesuit doesnt work like that. No problem with me.
In the end,cthough, we are all responsible for our actions. If Jesuit wasnt worried about the backlash, then could have dropped 25 on St Aug, kept on rolling and never said anything about it, but when some one gets on here, or anywhere else and the best response they have to our questions is "well shut up", and then want to talk down to people, that tells me that the perceived arrogance we only suspected in the first part of this thread now has become more of a reality. Some of the posts her have told us how the Jesuit players didnt clown or goof during the game, and that is good, but nothing was proven to either team by the lopsided score. Jesuit is one of the best, and because of that, more is expected out of them. I think many of us were just disappointed because we expected more.
As for hammering me, next time, dont hide behind your new made up name to spout hate--do it up front, and have the guts to call me out rather than cowardice to try and camoflauge yourself.
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Post by bouree on Jan 31, 2005 14:13:09 GMT -6
AMEN!!
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