Whats going on at AHS

[socanumber1fan]

So does anyone know who is playing and who is not playing at Acadiana High? Is everyone going to follow the new rule that the coaches have made or are the select girls going to go to college tournaments and continue to play select?

[soccer4]

So back to my previous post, I guess they have not learned. That makes the district alot easier if AHS is going to have all that controversey again I can't see them making a run for the district title and if they are missing those select players how strong will their team be?

[observer]

My understanding is that all the select players will report on 10/31. Their select team is not going to the thanksgiving tournament this year. As reported in another thread, 2 of their seniors have already committed to ULL and a thrid will soon make her decision.

[soccer4]

Heard the Rage team will be traveling to Pensacola in November, how many schools will this affect?

[observer]

Which Rage team are you refering to? 16's or 18's

[soccer4]

18's

[observer]

All premier players reported on Monday for Acadiana. How about LHS ?

[soccer4]

The schools & coaches that support their players going to the college showcase tournaments had players that didn't report on Oct. 31st for tryouts.

Observer, because all your select players showed at the 1st try out or conditioning day, do you think that will give your team an advantage over LHS? LHS has been conditioning for at least two weeks and all select players were in attendance so there can be no question of their dedication & loyalty to the HS team but it also shows that they want to play soccer at the next level by attending the showcase tournament. Maybe Acadiana coaches could have compromised and allowed their girls to attend the tournament & condition with the hs team, maybe this could have healed the bad feelings between hs & select ending all this controversey instead of now carring it over for the following years.

ESA (2 players)
LHS- (8+ players) the coach is taking a team to this tourney.
STM- (2 players) coach taking a team to tourney

[observer]

I was just responding to your earlier question. As I have stated before Lafayette High is the definite favorite in this district. From what I have heard, both players and coaches have left last year behind and have started fresh this year.

[observer]

Which Rage teams are going to which November tournaments. I had heard that the 18's didn't form at Top Gun and they never planned to go to Dallas. I ask in this thread because soccer4 is familiar with these teams.

[soccer4]

Observer,

I already answered that for you in a previous post. The 18's. Also who will be in the AHS midfield since you lost both midfielders.

[tigerdawg]

i think high school coaches that "make" their premier players miss college showcase tournaments to play high school soccer are doing those players an injustice. these showcase tournaments, and preparing for those tournaments will make these players much better than any high school coach will. the girls train with their club coaches for at least 7 months out of the year, and play very good competition nation wide. what makes any high school coach think that making premier players come out a few weeks earlier than they normally do (without playing in the showcase tournament) will make their team that much better? the only reason these schools are as good as they are is because of the premier players. the most successful high school teams are the teams with the most premier players. it is proven every year in the playoffs. these coaches need to not be so selfish at the beginning of the season and let the premier players finish their club seasons. they will come soon enough, well prepared. i would like to see some school be dumb enough to cut their premier players because they didn't report on the first day. let's see how far they make it in the playoffs.

[sweeper]

tigerdawg, the idea is not to penalize the player but to prepare his/her team. the players play so much better as a "team" when they get as much time together as possible. when the premier players go to their tournaments and walks in to their high school at the start of district and expect to get the respect of their teammates who have been working together for weeks and going to their own tourneys without them it creates bad vibes. This takes time to work out and by this time the season is in full swing. the high school coach knows he doesn't have as much time as the premier coach does to do alot of the training. it is true that most players come to hs already trained and prepared. but if you spent 7 months with your hs coach you may feel like he does most of your training. i personally know of coaches who have been "dumb enough" to cut premier players for not reporting on time--but mostly it was because they had really bad attitudes to begin with and thought they were "too good to get cut". Those teams ended up winning state because they didn't have to pacify a few players big heads and could focus on playing and winning. if you despise your hs career so badly, i suggest you don't play.

[rivers2]

If a player has a "bad attitude" whether they be Premier or not they should pay the consequences of such behavior. I personally do not believe any girl who plays soccer despises their high school career.....if they do they have issues that a coach cannot handle but are more suited for mental health professionals. I can understand "bad vibes" and no player should be given a positon without earning it. A coach ultimatley needs to give the team the best chance to win and any coach not willing to play his premier players due to a late reporting is not doing that.
SWEEPER, would you cite some examples of some teams winning state that wouldn't allow the premier players play who reported late. Not trying to make an issue but am simply curious. THANKS

[soccer03rc]

Some girls want to go on a play college soccer. The best way for them to do that is going to college showcase tournaments. Not allowing them to play high school because of this is rediculous. Why punish a player for wanting to continue playing soccer? Make them earn a starting position back dont not allow them to play, thats a little extreme. The premier players wouldnt have missed any district games. All they would've missed was two weeks of conditioning which wouldnt be a big deal because they have been training since August.

[manchurianman]

Let me just add a note here.

There are very, very few high school soccer players that get major college scholarships without playing premiere soccer. On the other hand a player can be named High School All American without even going to a high school that has a soccer program.

[soccer03rc]

Well some of the premier players want to get noticed by major colleges that aren't in state colleges. Yes it true that college coaches attend high school tournaments but its usually colleges in the state. The girls that might want to attend major colleges out of state go to showcase tournaments such as the Raleigh shootout, Dallas cup, wags, surf cup etc. How many college coaches have you seen at a high school game?? Maybe one or two at the most and thats only if a player asked them to come or if it is a tournament where you might find 5 colleges there. You go to a showcase tournament and you will find over 50 coaches from all over. What tournament would you attend if you wanted to go to a major college out of state?

[soccer03rc]

I'm not saying you have to attend college showcase tourneys to get noticed and thats the only way. I'm saying you are more likely to get noticed at a college showcase tournament then you are if you never go to showcase tournaments. If you are a good player you will go out of your way to make yourself get noticed. You will take the time to send out profiles to different colleges and copies of your schedules so they can attend some of your games. How many players do you know have gone to a major college straight out of high schools and have never gone to a showcase tourney or played in a premier league? I cant say I know to many that have been that good of a player that have been noticed strictly from high school play.

[tigerdawg]

let me ask this question. what sport, besides football, is the high school season where you get your most competition, best coaching, and even seen by a college coach? there isn't one. you have premier soccer, aau basketball, traveling softball and baseball, vbr volleyball, do i need to continue? all sports other than football have other seasons that give kids more than what high school gives. not to knock high school coachs, because i am one, but high school sports just aren't at the same level as club sports. i think you are dillusional to even think that high school soccer is going to get a player a scholarship to a Division I school that competes nationally. and most girls that want to play college soccer don't want to just go to any school just to be able to say they played in college. that's not what it is about. she wants to be able to play for someone that can compete in their conference and possible nationally. high school soccer just doesn't get you ready for what you are going to experience in college. premier soccer is the closest thing to getting a high school soccer player prepaired for the next level. and to say that coaches will find a player at any tournament is wrong. even state colleges don't go to high school tournaments to recruit. they don't have the time for that. they spend their time going to showcase tournaments before going to high school tournaments. i too am not saying the only way to get noticed is by going to showcase tournaments, but you have a better chance of getting noticed at a showcase tournament than by playing high school. for those of you that don't know the recruiting process, college coaches have a limit of times they are able to watch one particular person. so if sally is being recruited by unc, anson can only watch sally's team a certain amount of times. so if sally's teammate susie wants to go to unc, and anson only goes to raliegh shootout and that is the last time he can watch sally's team, then susie has to go to that tournament. anson doesn't go to watch high school soccer in louisiana. SO SHE HAS TO GO TO THE SHOWCASE TOURANMENT. but what if her high school coach said she can't play high school soccer if she doesn't report to the first practice? she cannot join the team two weeks in to the season? that is just not fair to that player. i don't know many club teams that keep their players through the end of december. actually, i don't know of any. since louisiana has the rule that you can't play club soccer and high school soccer at the same time, the high school coaches have to work with the club coaches on little things like this.

[tigerdawg]

i too have been around louisiana soccer for a while, and there is just as much talent in louisiana that can go play Division I college soccer now as there ever has been. you cannot sit there and tell me any differently. so you think that threatening a teenage girl by telling her that she will not be able to play high school soccer if she doesn't miss an opportunity of a lifetime is a lesson about life??? you are telling these girls to miss out on a chance to see new places, play different teams at a high level of competition, and even have a chance to get their college eduation paid for (or at least partially paid for) to go run and get in shape for a high school season. and that is a lesson about life? that doesn't really make sense to me. another thing, there aren't any girls out there that are going to make a career out of playing soccer, especially since there is no professional women's soccer. they may end up making the decision to coach collegiately, but how hard would that be if they haven't experienced playing it? you are correct in assuming that 75% of premier players don't go play college soccer, but should the 25% that do want to play be punished because the others have selfish high school coaches that won't allow their TEAMMATES to join their high school team late? when high school coaches do that, the players are forced to "sell out" their year round teammates to go play high school. not to say they don't have loyalty to their schools, but they also have loyalties to the players that they have probably been playing with for years and years. you are asking someone, who mind you has known about this tournament for over a year in most cases, to break a comittment with her club teammates and coach. these girls spend many hours every year training with these teams so that the few that do want to go play for maryland or texas a&m or even ole miss or lsu can do so. but when girls are put under such pressure by their high school coaches to make such a choice, they do end up letting their club teammates down. now what kind of life lesson is that? make a comittment and then break it. not a very good one to me. that ends up breaking the club team's cohesion. so it's screw one over for the other. i do understand it is a choice, but these coaches are forcing these girls to choose for the wrong reasons. that isn't the right lesson to be teaching. and what kind of "hall of fame" member would even want someone to do such a thing. oh, and one more thing, there are definitly girls out there right now, IN LOUISIANA, that are going to play at Division I schools next year. such as maryland (which is always in the post-season) and ole miss (which won the sec west this year). so you really need to get your facts straight.