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Post by barbedad20 on Jan 28, 2007 21:35:07 GMT -6
| TEAM | Voter 1 | Voter 2 | Voter 3 | Voter 4 | Voter 5 | Voter 6 | Points | 1. | Mandeville | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 57 | 2. | Fontainebleau | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 56 | 3. | Mt Carmel | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 48 | 4. | Lafayette | 5 | 4 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 40 | 5. | Barbe | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 37 | 6. | Terrebonne | 6 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 9 | 6 | 29 | 7. | Dutchtown | 7 | 7 | | | 6 | 7 | 17 | 8. | Byrd | 9 | 8 | 7 | 8 | | 8 | 15 | 9. | Caddo Magnet | | | 9 | 7 | 7 | 9 | 12 | 10. | Comeaux | 8 | 9 | 8 | 9 | | | 10 | 11. | BRHS | | | | | 8 | | 3 | 11. | Acadiana | | | | 10 | 10 | 10 | 3 | 13. | Hahnville | 10 | 10 | | | | | 2 | 14. | Dominican | | | 10 | | | | 1 |
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Post by sokerfan on Feb 17, 2007 13:31:33 GMT -6
I was just trying to figure out how the end of the season top 10 would look. If Lafayette Wins: If Dominican Wins: 1. Lafayette 1. Dominican 2. Dominican 2. Lafayette 3. Fontainebleau 3. Dutchtown 4. Dutchtown 4. Fontainebleau 5. Comeaux 5. Mandeville 6. Mandeville 6. Comeaux 7. Barbe 7. St. Amant 8. St. Amant 8. Barbe 9. Terrebonne 9. Mt. Carmel 10. Mt. Carmel 10. Terrebonne Now this is based on who Laffy and Dominican played and beat, and who their opponents beat. Of course we all believed the brackets messed up, so how does you Top 10 look. Mine is as follows: 1. The winner of the Laffy / Dominican game 2. The loser of that game 3. Fontainebleau Mandeville 5. Barbe 6. Comeaux 7. Mt. Carmel 8. Dutchtown 9. Terrebonne 10. St. Amant This is based on what I have seen this year. The only teams I have not seen play is Dutchtown and Mandeville. The reason I have Mandy where I have them is because of the teams we have played in common - Barbe, Fontainebleau, Chapelle ( think they could be in the top 10) and Dominican.
Would like to see YOUR TOP 10.
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Post by sokerfan on Feb 17, 2007 14:39:00 GMT -6
fhssoccerfan, I hear you loud and clear. I don't know if we could have another FHS/LHS game. We definitely got what we paid for and then some. Until we play Dominican, I would say LHS then FHS. We'll see next weekend.
Just wanted to get people thinking again.
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Post by toepoker on Feb 18, 2007 3:30:10 GMT -6
With that logic how do you rank Mandeville so high? In the second round of the playoffs Mandeville beat Chapelle by one. MCA beat them twice during the season. The same is true with Dominican who never scored a goal in regulation time against MCA. I also have read that Dutchtown was missing some players but what was the score of the Dutchtown – Dominican game? So far STM has lost one game this year. I cannot speak as to what players STM were missing for that game but MCA did not have two starting forwards for that tournament one of which was the leading scorer for the team.
Lost chances… If it were not for one bad game to Dominican you all would have seen some possession soccer instead of kickball sorry I meant playing over the top.
FHSsoccerfan here is a prediction, only FHS or Mandeville will make it through the second round of the playoffs next year. Can you guess why?
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Post by icarustea on Feb 18, 2007 10:36:43 GMT -6
Playing over the top may not be the prettiest way to play the game, but it's a strategy done on the professional levels all the time. If the team has forwards that can control balls played to them that way and score or has forwards that know how to one time volleys those long balls and score, why not? If a team is getting beat at midfield, than that is how I would tell that team to play it. This is what you call "finding ways to win." And just b/c a team plays a ball through midfield doesn't always mean they play a better game. It is just a style of play, that is all.
And Dominican didn't just play kickball. From what I saw at the Mandeville game, the first goal was by a freshman who dribbled her way around at least 2 defenders to score an unassisted goal.
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Post by toepoker on Feb 19, 2007 12:42:26 GMT -6
It was not my intent to single out Dominican for playing kickball but after rereading my post I see that I did. The post was meant to question other teams elevated status in the predicted final poll. Also while playing possession soccer does not guarantee a win some teams (not playing professional soccer) do not have that option and that was my point on the topic of playing kickball.
The difference of a professional team playing over the top and a high school team playing kickball is a matter of talent on the field. You are correct about finding a way to win if you were referring to the MCA and Dominican game. Instead of yellow cards issued being 4 – 0 and an adjustment could have been made. But a 4 – 8 ratio in yellow cards would have doubled the risk of an injury to a player because they were not shoulder-to-shoulder fouls.
Hopefully, as a player and possibly a parent you can understand why I am proud that my daughter has never played for a coach that directed players to not worry about playing under control and would single out three opposing players.
I will gladly have the taste of that mediocre lollipop (you refer to) if you disagree on that statement and we will agree to disagree and leave it at that. Red raspberry would be my choice if you were so inclined.
2/25/06 at 14:51, icarustea wrote: That’s impressive if nothing else. Are you now presently back in Louisiana playing or coaching?
I apologize for what seems to me as endless posts of poor sportsmanship on my part. Unless you become the state champs a loss is bound to happen and there were many good teams in the playoffs. The loss to Dominican has very little to do with the posts. As this forum is at times informative, my intent was to make the point those factors other than the quality of players or the bounce of the ball played in that game.
Be it being a poor sport or not, I think there should be a price to pay for instructing young players to play in such a manner.
on 2/8/07 at 23:04 toepoker, wrote:
When the above statement was made directly to the coach his statement was I cannot control how the referee calls a game. To those who understand my motives thank you for the IM’s and to those who don’t I probably never stood a chance to explain my opinion. Enough said and I once again apologize for length and nature of my posts. Good luck to both teams in the playoffs and if you both play to your highest potential destiny will take it’s course.
Suddendeath - I cannot follow the conspiracy theory of the brackets being manipulated. It may have been a drunken chimp as you suggest, who set the brackets or the arduous effort of the lahsaa in throwing darts. The lack of respect in the prediction for the final poll and the bias nature lead to my prediction of what goes around comes around.
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Post by icarustea on Feb 19, 2007 21:16:17 GMT -6
It was not my intent to single out Dominican for playing kickball but after rereading my post I see that I did. The post was meant to question other teams elevated status in the predicted final poll. Also while playing possession soccer does not guarantee a win some teams (not playing professional soccer) do not have that option and that was my point on the topic of playing kickball. The difference of a professional team playing over the top and a high school team playing kickball is a matter of talent on the field. You are correct about finding a way to win if you were referring to the MCA and Dominican game. Instead of yellow cards issued being 4 – 0 and an adjustment could have been made. But a 4 – 8 ratio in yellow cards would have doubled the risk of an injury to a player because they were not shoulder-to-shoulder fouls. Hopefully, as a player and possibly a parent you can understand why I am proud that my daughter has never played for a coach that directed players to not worry about playing under control and would single out three opposing players. I will gladly have the taste of that mediocre lollipop (you refer to) if you disagree on that statement and we will agree to disagree and leave it at that. Red raspberry would be my choice if you were so inclined. 2/25/06 at 14:51, icarustea wrote: That’s impressive if nothing else. Are you now presently back in Louisiana playing or coaching? I apologize for what seems to me as endless posts of poor sportsmanship on my part. Unless you become the state champs a loss is bound to happen and there were many good teams in the playoffs. The loss to Dominican has very little to do with the posts. As this forum is at times informative, my intent was to make the point those factors other than the quality of players or the bounce of the ball played in that game. Be it being a poor sport or not, I think there should be a price to pay for instructing young players to play in such a manner. on 2/8/07 at 23:04 toepoker, wrote: When the above statement was made directly to the coach his statement was I cannot control how the referee calls a game. To those who understand my motives thank you for the IM’s and to those who don’t I probably never stood a chance to explain my opinion. Enough said and I once again apologize for length and nature of my posts. Good luck to both teams in the playoffs and if you both play to your highest potential destiny will take it’s course. It wasn't my intent to compare high school and professional teams...sorry about that. Just that it is a tactic used ("kickball") and it's a form of disruption play - kick and rush. Also, my coach did not encourage foul play (with the intent to hurt) - no coach should. But he does encourage physical play. Physical teams sometimes outplay technical teams. And yes, it is a tactic to single out opposing players to make sure to deny them the ball. If you think the ref called a bad game on that part, that is your opinion, but I hear the ref is one of the better ones in the state. I just so happened to be in town on business and decided to watch the games. And no, I don't coach, I play in an adult league now. Not claiming to be anybody, just wanted to say what I have learned from playing almost 20+ years. My husband is a coach and referee and he has given me his two cents from watching some of the games with me. Believe me, I've been in games where we outplayed a team and lost. In the end, it's all about the missed chances where it could have been ended with better finishing on our part. To quote someone else from this forum (I think his name was blueandwhite12) It's pretty frustrating to read about which teams should have made it to the finals at this point....If you lose at all during playoffs, you don't deserve to win the state title. Period. I agree, sometimes the brackets are really uneven, but if your team is truly the most deserving, it will win every game anyway. That is the state tournament in a nutshell.
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Post by thruball on Feb 23, 2007 0:06:25 GMT -6
I agree with most of what sokerfan listed accept a couple of changes. Just my opinion.
1. The winner of the Laffy / Dominican game 2. The loser of that game 3. Fontainebleau 4. Mandeville 5. Barbe 6. Mt. Carmel 7. Terrebonne 8. Comeaux 9. Dutchtown 10. St. Amant
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Post by Tigertail on Feb 23, 2007 10:33:47 GMT -6
1. Finals Winner 2. Finals Loser 3. Fontainebleau 4. Mandeville 5. Dutchtown 6. Barbe 7. St. Amant 8. Mt. Carmel 9. Terrebonne 10. Comeaux
St. Amant and MCA could be reversed, Dutchtown and Mandeville could be as well. Just putting my 2 cents in.
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Post by laffan on Feb 23, 2007 10:47:57 GMT -6
1. Lafayette if win; Font if Lafayette loses 2. Font if Laf wins; Dominican if they win 3. Lafayette if they lose; Dominican if they lose 4. Barbe 5. Mt. Carmel 6. Mandeville 7. Dutchtown 8. St. Amant 9. Comeaux 10. Terrebonne
If Lafayette wins there is no question as to No.1. If Dominican wins then Font is No. 1, Dominican No. 2 and Lafayette 3 If Dominican loses then Lafayette is No. 1, Font., No. 2 and Dominican No. 3
Obviously, I'm not looking at who wins State but in who has the best 3 teams. Dominican is an excellent team. My opinion is that if they win or lose they are still not the BEST of the three.
DII... SSA 1 STM 2 and Neville 3 (regardless of the outcome of the final) and Ben Franklin 4.
DIII Whoever wins, Newman or SHNO, is No. 1 w/ loser at No. 2. St. Louis No. 3 CHNI No. 4
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