SPORTSMANSHIP

[SWLASocFan]

You hit the nail in the head with the hammer, with this statement. The entire purpose of the original post by ShreveDad was to clarify some "untruths" in the post, and clear up the exagerations. We all know that there is alot of exagerations on this board, so why not clear it up if you were an unbiased person at the match?

I agree, KEEP POSTING!

[jlove47]

WOW!! I coach the Haughton girls and am amazed by tonygalinto's post. There is nothing wrong with shrevedad making a comment about 37 being physical and loving to watch here play. If you are a ref you should know soccer is a very physical sport (only football, hockey and lacrosse are more physical). I assure you 37 is a clean player. I do not even allow her to slide takle because of the possibility of someone getting hurt.

Shrevedad is a very good ref and in my opinion as a coach probably one of the best in NWLA. He lets the girls play soccer but never lets it get out of hand. Your posting concerns me more then shrevedads. As a ref I hope you woukd allow the players to play and not stop the game every time a player touched another. In soccer the players need to be aloud to play.

The game was ugly for us we did not practice over the break and it showed. The game was a very physical and yes I teach my girls to be very physical but never dirty. Parkway is a very good team and coach Alexanderis an excellent coach and I have the upmost respect for the coaching staff. I know for a fact if she heard her girls acting that way or disrespecting a coach she would pull them. Yes the ref's missed some calls but I can assure you it went both ways.

The posting about the parents is dead on. I have 2 kids myself and it is my responsibility to teach my kids respect not the coach. As a coach it is my responsilbility to teach them the game and also how to act like young ladies. We do not have much parent support at Haughton and I am thankful for those that are there.

Liz stated it is just a game and she is absolutley correct. Sometimes we as coaches forget that it is just a game.

WE NEED TO REMEMBER IT IS NOT ABOUT THE COACHES, PARENTS, OR REF'S IT IS ABOUT INVESTING IN THE GIRLS LIVES.

[predatorabsolute]

tonygalinto said:

shrevedad said:

Thanks for the support guys. All I was doing was standing up for a coach wrongly accused of condoning unsportsmanlike and disrespectful behavior by their players. I don't know any coach that would put up with that. I'm not saying that parent didn't hear those comments. They must have been said close to the bleachers near the parents. I didn't hear them. The center didn't hear them. I'm also quite sure the Parkway coaches didn't hear them since they would have been 50 yards away. I feel comfortable in saying the Parkway coaches would have dealt with the situation had they heard the player make those comments.

Unfortunately in your post you went muh further than merely taking up for both coaches. I will repaet once again my feelings on this matter.

As a HS soccer official I find the conduct of the person posting on this board as an official of a controversial game unethical. I would hope the LHSAA director of HS Soccer officials make contact with the referee to confirm the poster was actually the official that worked the game and offer some advice to him. In my opinion this person should not be assigned to games of either of these schools for the rest of the season. By coming on here and posting his comments he leaves himself wide open to complaints of favoritism or bias against one team or the other.

someone's a little crazy

[im4christ]

Can't we all just get along.....................this has made for some interesting reading but what is most amazing is that we are quite far off the topic as when it was started.

As for the parties involved in the game in question, I have either coached against or even officiated games where they were coaching and have never seen anything but complete sportsmanship and as a referee I have no issue with a referee clarifying a point with a post here.

Let's face it if there are 100 people at a match (including players, coaches, referees) there will be 100 different points of view. I have done games where both coaches thanked me for how well the game was officiated and then walked past the crowd leaving a field and hearing how pitiful I was (actually it was said differently - but I don't say those things) as the ref.

I wish everyone much health and happiness in 2008.

Blessings all!

[jlove47]

WOW!! I coach the Haughton girls and am amazed by tonygalinto's post. There is nothing wrong with shrevedad making a comment about 37 being physical and loving to watch here play. If you are a ref you should know soccer is a very physical sport (only football, hockey and lacrosse are more physical). I assure you 37 is a clean player. I do not even allow her to slide tackle because of the possibility of someone getting hurt.

Shrevedad is a very good ref and in my opinion as a coach probably one of the best in NWLA. He lets the girls play soccer but never lets it get out of hand. Your posting concerns me more then shrevedads. As a ref I hope you would allow the players to play and not stop the game every time a player touched another. In soccer the players need to be aloud to play.

The game was ugly for us we did not practice over the break and it showed. The game was a very physical and yes I teach my girls to be very physical but never dirty. Parkway is a very good team and coach Alexander is an excellent coach and I have the up most respect for the coaching staff. I know for a fact if she heard her girls acting that way or disrespecting a coach she would pull them. Yes the ref's missed some calls but I can assure you it went both ways.

The posting about the parents is dead on. I have 2 kids myself and it is my responsibility to teach my kids respect not the coach. As a coach it is my responsibility to teach them the game, develop them as players and also how to act like young ladies. We do not have much parent support at Haughton and I am thankful for those that are there.

Liz stated it is just a game and she is absolutely correct. Sometimes we as coaches forget that it is just a game.

WE NEED TO REMEMBER IT IS NOT ABOUT THE COACHES, PARENTS, OR REF'S IT IS ABOUT INVESTING IN THE GIRLS LIVES.

[sosoplayer24]

This thread started with probably the most important issue all of our programs are facing and that is sportsmanship. This is a problem on the field and in the stands and it is getting worse. I agree with several post made in that the enforcement should start at home. Unfortunately the majority of the issues come from the stands. As a retired coach this has been my first year sitting in the stands with parents and fans. It has been a real eye opener for me and now I understand why the sport is losing refs right and left. The things I have heard yelled and referees and at players and and oposing team parents has me questioning what school administrators do during these games. I am not talking about one school because I have made my rounds this year and it is wide spread. I know we depend on the referees to to keep the games under control and call them fairly and believe me over the years I had my problems with a few but the things I've heard this year are way out of hand and embarassing. I have no problem with people voicing their opinions now and again but to make personal attacks on men and women who love this game and are making it possible for your kids to play is over the line. It's time to start showing a little more respect from the stands and I can assure you the field will follow.

[tonygalinto]

This will be my last post on the subject and my comments are made to all referees that post on this board. Talk about games in general, calls in general, referees in general. But don't come on and identify yourself as one of the officials during the game and talk about the game itself and calls during the game.

The coaches are big boys and girls and can come on and defend themselves and their players if they feel the need, they don't need the referees to take up for them on this forum.

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tonygalinto said:

This will be my last post on the subject

you should've quit while you were ahead

[soccer2006]

I'm pretty sure if tere or randy would of heard one of their girls use profanity they would of dealt with them right there and pulled them off. Having shrevedad ref tons of my games I'm sure he would of carded any player using language like that.

[furriner]

soccer2006 said:

I'm pretty sure if tere or randy would of heard one of their girls use profanity they would of dealt with them right there and pulled them off. Having shrevedad ref tons of my games I'm sure he would of carded any player using language like that.

I was taught to go with the "hammer" analogy: if the last time you hit your thumb with a hammer, you were able to say, "gosh, darn it", then you can hope that others would do the same. I cannot do that. In the heat of the moment, if someone misses a shot, takes a hard hit etc, I cannot expect them not to let off steam.

If the bands of both teams were there and playing, then, like in football, it would not be heard and nobody would complain. Now, if a player gets in my face and calls me everything under the sun, then they are seeing plastic, at the very least, yellow, for dissent.

[PutMeInCoach2]

I hope nobody identifies me as a referee on this forum, i mean most of the times i only post the score of the games i referee