Too Many Players on Field

[cgcsu]

Not exactly sure of the details, happened on a field next to the game I was watching.

U-12 girls- Team A has ball in Team B penalty area- Referee notices Team A has too many players on the field. Referee stops play, removes extra player, drop ball in penalty area, Team A wins ball and scores off of the drop to tie the game. Was this the correct call by the referee? I don't know what the correct call should have been. I was wondering if anyone knew for sure.

[pompey]

have no clue but would think opposing team would gain possession from point where play was stopped, instead of an 'equal' drop ball restart.

Wonder what the call is if a team scores and running back for kickoff a ref notices the goalscoring team has an extra player???

This one is a bit touchy because the referee crew is at fault for allowing this to happen. This is one of the reasons to have players leave before entering, to keep track.

Here is what the Laws say:
If a substitute enters without the referee's permission, pay is stopped, sub is cautioned, and required to leave the field of play, play is restarted with an IDFk. Further, if play is stopped to administer a caution, the match is restarted with an IDFk by a player of the opposing team from the place the ball was located when play was stopped.

But the referee allowed the sub......is it "just" to penalize a team for a referee mistake?

From the Advice:If a referee allows more than the specified number of subs and discovers this after play is restarted, this is a violation of Law 3. It is also a serious error by the referee. The referee must remove the illegal substitute at the earliest opportunity, restarting as a appropriate to the reason the ball was out of play.

So if the referee stopped play in the middle of play, drop ball would be appropriate. And perhaps a tongue lashing for even getting in that situation.

[tonygalinto]

futbolislife said:

This one is a bit touchy because the referee crew is at fault for allowing this to happen. This is one of the reasons to have players leave before entering, to keep track.

Here is what the Laws say:
If a substitute enters without the referee's permission, pay is stopped, sub is cautioned, and required to leave the field of play, play is restarted with an IDFk. Further, if play is stopped to administer a caution, the match is restarted with an IDFk by a player of the opposing team from the place the ball was located when play was stopped.

But the referee allowed the sub......is it "just" to penalize a team for a referee mistake?

From the Advice:If a referee allows more than the specified number of subs and discovers this after play is restarted, this is a violation of Law 3. It is also a serious error by the referee. The referee must remove the illegal substitute at the earliest opportunity, restarting as a appropriate to the reason the ball was out of play.

So if the referee stopped play in the middle of play, drop ball would be appropriate. And perhaps a tongue lashing for even getting in that situation.

First off you are assuming the extra player entered on a subbing opportunity and the officials made an error. No where in the original post does it address HOW the extra player came to be on the field. The coach could have thought he was short a player and just told her to go in during the run of play, possibly the referee witnessed this and counted players and stopped play. In that situation the restart should be a IFK for the other team.

But consider this, if the referee hadn't stopped play and the team with too many players scored and the fact there were too many players was discovered before the restart the goal would then be disallowed and play restarted with a goal kick. Even if it was an error by the officials that let too many player be on the field the goal still would not count.

Just trying to point out a different angles on the scenario.

You are correct in that my base assumption was the typical referee actions on subs with players coming and going with no control. However, if a player did enter with being beckoned on to the field, then an IDFk would be the restart.

In the issue of a goal being scored with 12 players, The Advice, section 3.20, covers this. If this is discovered before the kick off, the goal is denied. The restart becomes a drop ball or IDFk based on the circumstances of the extra player. If the extra player is discovered after the kick off, the goal would stand.

[dougplanchard]

This happened one on my old club team. Referee was immediately shot.