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Post by furriner on Feb 25, 2008 13:20:37 GMT -6
For those who have seen the eduardo leg break incident, is the correct form to check on in the status of the player or to show the red card straight away?
I would have thought that the safety of the player was the paramount concern; cards, if required, could be shown later (although, granted, that could be seen to be based on the severity of the injury, and not on the legality of the challenge).
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Post by dulac on Feb 25, 2008 16:54:32 GMT -6
It was soooo ugly, it's kinda hard to know exactly what I'd do. I guess, after calling for the board, I'd be sick and then show the red....
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Post by bigsoccerfan on Feb 25, 2008 18:03:04 GMT -6
You can do what ever you want. I can promise you he was getting a red no matter if he broke his leg or not.
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Post by futbolspectator on Feb 25, 2008 18:41:00 GMT -6
Yeah its hard to find the video of it now, since arsenal took them or something like that but that has to be one of the sickest things I've seen. Thats up there with 2girls1cup and Hatchet vs. Genitals
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Post by biome22 on Feb 25, 2008 21:49:40 GMT -6
agreed i feel awful for Eduardo. Today was his birthday. I would hate to celebrate it with a compound fracture and dislocated ankle
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Post by The Irish Fro on Feb 25, 2008 23:35:20 GMT -6
havent seen what yall are talking about, but to beat two girls 1 cup, thats gotta be pretty disgusting.
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Post by on Feb 26, 2008 7:12:38 GMT -6
When to show the red? I don't know if there is a black/white answer. Depends on so many issues. If there is any likelihood of retaliation against that player, do it quick and let everyone know. Yes it can be issued later. In that particular case, there is no doubt that players were calling for medical attention immediately. The player was going to get attention PDQ.
More importantly, for referees, this type of cleats up, over the ball tackle is fairly common. I see it almost every weekend. Fortunately, many players "jump" over it or avoid it. But few referees deal with it. This type of tackle clearly endangers the safety of the players. And when it makes contact, it can often be with ugly results.....as we saw.
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Post by furriner on Feb 26, 2008 8:54:56 GMT -6
my son, a high school player, stated that under high school rules, eduardo would have had to have his shin guards lower. It looks like the break was just at the bottom end of his shin guards.
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Post by bigsoccerfan on Feb 26, 2008 9:49:56 GMT -6
my son, a high school player, stated that under high school rules, eduardo would have had to have his shin guards lower. It looks like the break was just at the bottom end of his shin guards. Here is some info about shin guards. If you are going to break your leg, a shin guard will do NOTHING. It is plastic. If you saw the tackle, Eduardo's foot got stuck to the ground. If he had been able to jump, he would be mad because he had cleats marks on his leg and that is it. It was unlucky. Either way, broken leg or not, the referee would have given the red. Also, the slide came in from the side and hit him on the side of his leg, missed the shin guard completely. |
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Post by happyjack on Feb 26, 2008 14:24:33 GMT -6
yes, but in 2 years when the NFHS calls for full-concrete encasement below the knees, he would have been safe and not suffered any damage...
back to the question at hand...issuing depends on the situation, as FIL noted above
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Post by bhssoccerplaya on Feb 26, 2008 19:43:36 GMT -6
is there a way i can find this video tht u all r tlkin about
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Post by futbolspectator on Feb 26, 2008 19:48:27 GMT -6
Look in Google and type in Eduardo leg break and eventually you'll find a place I'm sure.
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Post by PutMeInCoach2 on Feb 26, 2008 20:17:24 GMT -6
For those who have seen the eduardo leg break incident, is the correct form to check on in the status of the player or to show the red card straight away? There is no clear black and white answer to this... Both ways you will take critism as a referee. If you check on the player, then issue the card, you will face critism for only issueing the card for the injury. If you card the player then worry about the injury, you will face critism for not looking after the player and getting them attention fast enough. It is a no win situation for the referee. However, I usually check on the player, and already know if I am issueing the card before hand. However, I rather be sure a player is ok fast, and worry about the card after. |
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Post by LafayetteDad on Feb 26, 2008 20:33:38 GMT -6
Look in Google and type in Eduardo leg break and eventually you'll find a place I'm sure. Believe me, you do not want to see this video. This was harder to watch than Cissé's break just before the World Cup. |
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Post by biome22 on Feb 26, 2008 20:46:20 GMT -6
I watched in on Fox Soccer Channel. It was disgusting. Its the equivalent of Willis McGahee tearing everything in his knee in the 04 national championship game. Very disturbing.
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Post by futbolspectator on Feb 26, 2008 20:51:35 GMT -6
He needs to drink more milk.
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Post by MC on Feb 26, 2008 20:53:28 GMT -6
man that is disgusting
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Post by futbolspectator on Feb 26, 2008 20:54:39 GMT -6
Look at his face, it makes me want to cry.
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Post by furriner on Feb 26, 2008 21:27:28 GMT -6
having seen one of the still shots, it shows the ref reaching for red as he is coming in. I guess the red card was being shown even before he could have seen the severity of the damage.
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Post by mmill32 on Feb 27, 2008 15:15:16 GMT -6
that's malicious.. guy should be held accountable.. needs to be banned for a year imo
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