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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 12:35:21 GMT -6
Simple to me. There are around 14 U18 and 10 U17 club soccer teams in Louisiana currently. 2 in U18 and 0 in U17 are based north of I10/I12. Amen: SPS basically is a U17-18 all star club team wearing high school colors. I am curious as to the class distribution in SPS starting 11 (and their top bench guys). I know Shreve was senior heavy in the back (GK and all back 4) but in attack we were going with 2 Sophomores 2 Juniors and 2 Seniors and our first off the bench was a Junior (Goree) Exactly. After watching the Shreve-Northshore clip I can come up with a few universal truths:
1. Without good technique, high school soccer comes down to kickball and a series of 50/50 balls. 2. No matter how 'athletic" a player may be (or perceived to be) that player is severely limited without good technique. 3. If your first touch is bad, your second touch is likely a 'tackle'. (By the other team.) 4. Watching the vast majority of youth/high school players, their first instinct is to 'dribble'...not pass! And that's wrong! There's a time to dribble, but generally a bad idea in heavy traffic. It slows the game down and makes it very difficult to find space. 5. The ball moves much, much faster than even the fastest of players. So, unless you are the next Messi or Ronaldo (and if you are you shouldn't be playing high school soccer anyway) keep it simple! 1 and 2 touch.
St. Paul's played quick, simple passes to feet. Great movement off the ball. The only dribbling came when it was to their benefit. (On the flanks...in the attacking third.)
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Post by oranje on Feb 19, 2014 13:12:28 GMT -6
Amen: SPS basically is a U17-18 all star club team wearing high school colors. I am curious as to the class distribution in SPS starting 11 (and their top bench guys). I know Shreve was senior heavy in the back (GK and all back 4) but in attack we were going with 2 Sophomores 2 Juniors and 2 Seniors and our first off the bench was a Junior (Goree) Exactly. After watching the Shreve-Northshore clip I can come up with a few universal truths:
1. Without good technique, high school soccer comes down to kickball and a series of 50/50 balls. 2. No matter how 'athletic" a player may be (or perceived to be) that player is severely limited without good technique. 3. If your first touch is bad, your second touch is likely a 'tackle'. (By the other team.) 4. Watching the vast majority of youth/high school players, their first instinct is to 'dribble'...not pass! And that's wrong! There's a time to dribble, but generally a bad idea in heavy traffic. It slows the game down and makes it very difficult to find space. 5. The ball moves much, much faster than even the fastest of players. So, unless you are the next Messi or Ronaldo (and if you are you shouldn't be playing high school soccer anyway) keep it simple! 1 and 2 touch.
St. Paul's played quick, simple passes to feet. Great movement off the ball. The only dribbling came when it was to their benefit. (On the flanks...in the attacking third.)
Agree 100%! A young player's best development years to learn fine soccer or motor skills is up until ~11/12 years of age. So the development/academy programs at U7-U12 is the best way to teach young players ball handling skills, not how to win or tactics. That will follow. A strong athletic player does not automatically translate into a good soccer player. It's a fine skill learned at an early age. First touch determines next touch and that's as basic as it gets in soccer.
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Post by happyjack on Feb 19, 2014 18:06:44 GMT -6
I did not have a perfect view of the goal, I know 10 was in the mix and j certainly could have been mistaken. Great heads up play to challenge the keeper into making a bad attempt to clear and great follow up to be running in to score.
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Post by keepingthefire on Feb 19, 2014 19:43:13 GMT -6
I did not have a perfect view of the goal, I know 10 was in the mix and j certainly could have been mistaken. Great heads up play to challenge the keeper into making a bad attempt to clear and great follow up to be running in to score. Jack - not sure what view you had? The header was scored by #8. Also there was no challenge. The St. Pauls keeper was hit by two players back-pedaling as he jumped to punch the free kick. The missed punch went high and #8 ran on to the ball and headed it just under the crossbar.
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Post by happyjack on Feb 21, 2014 17:54:17 GMT -6
I did not have a perfect view of the goal, I know 10 was in the mix and j certainly could have been mistaken. Great heads up play to challenge the keeper into making a bad attempt to clear and great follow up to be running in to score. Jack - not sure what view you had? The header was scored by #8. Also there was no challenge. The St. Pauls keeper was hit by two players back-pedaling as he jumped to punch the free kick. The missed punch went high and #8 ran on to the ball and headed it just under the crossbar. So players on opposing teams both going for the same ball is no longer a challenge? I'll remember that for future reporting. And he actually headed it into the crossbar, it bounced down and then crossed the goal line following the bounce.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 15:41:01 GMT -6
Jack - not sure what view you had? The header was scored by #8. Also there was no challenge. The St. Pauls keeper was hit by two players back-pedaling as he jumped to punch the free kick. The missed punch went high and #8 ran on to the ball and headed it just under the crossbar. So players on opposing teams both going for the same ball is no longer a challenge? I'll remember that for future reporting. And he actually headed it into the crossbar, it bounced down and then crossed the goal line following the bounce. Okay, I'm confused. I know #10 didn't get the goal. (I saw 8 get a head on the ball. Plus, I asked 10 when he got home that night...)
keepingthefire, are you saying the St. Paul's keeper (Hanley) was fouled?
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Post by keepingthefire on Feb 23, 2014 8:36:34 GMT -6
So players on opposing teams both going for the same ball is no longer a challenge? I'll remember that for future reporting. And he actually headed it into the crossbar, it bounced down and then crossed the goal line following the bounce. Okay, I'm confused. I know #10 didn't get the goal. (I saw 8 get a head on the ball. Plus, I asked 10 when he got home that night...)
keepingthefire, are you saying the St. Paul's keeper (Hanley) was fouled?
hall97 - No. St. Pauls keeper was not fouled. just saying that there was no "heads up play" that challenged him as happyjack inferred. As the keeper leaped forward to punch the lofted free kick out, a Shreve forwrd and St. Paul defender stepped backward which took the keeper's leg out causing the punch to go straight up and enabling #8 to run on for the header.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 15:33:02 GMT -6
Okay. Sounds about right. I didn't have the best view of the play. Which is why I asked. I only saw #8 for Shreve get a head on the ball.
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Post by smoser on Feb 23, 2014 20:40:26 GMT -6
the goal was an opportunistic finish for shreve .... but was my fault. After flying around for 15 minutes and scoring, we decided to sit back (unbeknownst to the coaching staff) which led to several long range free kicks. After a few discombobulated plays in the back, i called out my keeper and told him to win the next free kick which did not go as deep as the previous ones... he challenged at the top off the box , ran into our backs, ball popped free and was head off the crossbar and in . I think the goal scorer was shreves african american front runner.
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Post by Futbolmaniac on Feb 23, 2014 23:45:18 GMT -6
lol... we now have 3 versions of that goal, 3 different scorers!! not that it matters anyway..game is over guys! but if your really wants to know futbolfiend or someone should post the video, he always post Shreve's scoring plays.
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Post by futbolfiend on Feb 24, 2014 7:34:14 GMT -6
Ill post it today..considering its the only goal SPS has given up in the playoffs..I guess it has some value...actually we had a cleaner chance same half..caught SPS napping and took a short corner..doughty was unmarked about 8 yrs from end-line and 14 out from goal and side netted it ..tight angle but he's been able to drain corners from the same side so it was definitively in his skill set..would have put us up by 1 then Shreve could have gone into the mother of all bunkers...
Sent from my SPH-L710 using proboards
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Post by futbolfiend on Feb 24, 2014 14:40:49 GMT -6
Ill post it today..considering its the only goal SPS has given up in the playoffs..I guess it has some value...actually we had a cleaner chance same half..caught SPS napping and took a short corner..doughty was unmarked about 8 yrs from end-line and 14 out from goal and side netted it ..tight angle but he's been able to drain corners from the same side so it was definitively in his skill set..would have put us up by 1 then Shreve could have gone into the mother of all bunkers... Sent from my SPH-L710 using proboards here are the two plays I mention above the goal and the corner. Certainly not implying this game was close (other than the score through 60 minutes) but even though SPS was generating lots of shots they were missing most (with the rest getting saved or blocked). we gave up a very soft goal to give them the lead with about 20 left and it went all downhill from there (or uphill if youre from SPS)...the only way to get the result is to convert every chance you get and not make any mistakes, we made a couple of big ones and were lucky SPS was a little off with their shooting.
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Post by quepasa on Feb 24, 2014 15:09:23 GMT -6
Have to put that one on the defender who backs into the keeper who otherwise would have made a routine catch.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 15:39:17 GMT -6
Have to put that one on the defender who backs into the keeper who otherwise would have made a routine catch. I don't know if you can blame the defender. He can't see the keeper coming up behind him. So, unless the keeper called him off, you just have to chalk it up to a miscommunication. You have to make split second decisions when defending set pieces.
It happens even at the highest levels of the game.
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