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Post by themania on Jan 19, 2021 14:46:59 GMT -6
Do any of you have opinions on them? I’m fixing to move My son over to club. He’s 11. My options are ascension flight, Baton Rouge soccer club. And now recently Gulf Coast Texans have popped up. Any of you know anything about Gulf Coast Texans?
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Post by tigersjv on Jan 19, 2021 15:30:25 GMT -6
It is ran by Orlando Cervantes. From what I can gather, they’re trying to be in the mold of ODP. We have kids that play club ball and do GCT as well.
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Post by wildcatstriker on Jan 19, 2021 16:02:27 GMT -6
Do any of you have opinions on them? I’m fixing to move My son over to club. He’s 11. My options are ascension flight, Baton Rouge soccer club. And now recently Gulf Coast Texans have popped up. Any of you know anything about Gulf Coast Texans? My recommendation is to start with Ascension Flight. They do a great job teaching the technical aspect, and applying to the competitive game. As they get older, depending on how competitive they want to be, there will be chances to move to BR or Texans when the time is right.
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Post by krvader on Jan 21, 2021 22:17:20 GMT -6
Do any of you have opinions on them? I’m fixing to move My son over to club. He’s 11. My options are ascension flight, Baton Rouge soccer club. And now recently Gulf Coast Texans have popped up. Any of you know anything about Gulf Coast Texans? I’d say it really depends on what works best for you and your son. BRSC seems to have the best long term results as the teams get older and offers the best chance to play on a higher level, IMO. The Texans are new and don’t have nearly the numbers of either of the other clubs but have technical coaches just as good as the other 2 Flight has great facilities and coaches (so does BRSC) Their numbers are bigger than the Texans but usually not as many as BRSC.As they get older , that limits the number of spaces The older groups usually just have 1 team. If your son goes to school in BR, I’d probably do BRSC just because they start to play with the kids they will play with in HS and make friends outside their elementary/middle school earlier
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Post by futbalfan on Jan 23, 2021 18:24:40 GMT -6
Do any of you have opinions on them? I’m fixing to move My son over to club. He’s 11. My options are ascension flight, Baton Rouge soccer club. And now recently Gulf Coast Texans have popped up. Any of you know anything about Gulf Coast Texans? What’s his birth year? If 2009, Ascension Flight has a Comp 1 team that age.
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Post by viewgator91 on Jan 26, 2021 9:07:18 GMT -6
It really depends on the kid, not the club. If you have an ultra competitive kid that will make the top team (black) and wants to put in the time and effort, BR offers more and you pay for that as well. If he would make 2nd level team (red) but has the end goal to still play for the black level team, then still consider BRSC because that gives the program a chance to get to know the player and really evaluate he/she. You also have the open door policy option (post covid) to practice with other teams which will help you get to that level. If you want to go the smaller club route, I would do AFSC. Well established and shouldn't have any issues fielding teams at the younger level. They should also have good players and coaches on a smaller scale. I would assume more affordable too.
The Texans program is not in the ODP mold. You don't play club for BRSC and Texans in the offseason. That is being confused with iD2, aka Louisiana United. That is the ODP like program that is also ran by Orlando. I have hopes that GCT will be able to offer the community something BRSC doesn't, but I think they are years from a stable program where they can get enough kids in each age group and field competitive level teams.
There are also other options depending where you live. PARDS or STYSA if you live a little further east.
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Post by viewgator91 on Jan 26, 2021 9:11:48 GMT -6
It is ran by Orlando Cervantes. From what I can gather, they’re trying to be in the mold of ODP. We have kids that play club ball and do GCT as well. Orlando runs both id2 = similar to ODP GCT = club ball, can't play for other clubs without approval which BRSC won't give you for sure he is also trying to get a futsal program off the ground
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Post by wildcatstriker on Jan 26, 2021 18:49:24 GMT -6
It is ran by Orlando Cervantes. From what I can gather, they’re trying to be in the mold of ODP. We have kids that play club ball and do GCT as well. Orlando runs both id2 = similar to ODP GCT = club ball, can't play for other clubs without approval which BRSC won't give you for sure he is also trying to get a futsal program off the ground GST is not associated with LSA in any way. In theory you could play for GST and another team of both coaches are in step with scheduling.
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Post by viewgator91 on Jan 28, 2021 13:50:04 GMT -6
Orlando runs both id2 = similar to ODP GCT = club ball, can't play for other clubs without approval which BRSC won't give you for sure he is also trying to get a futsal program off the ground GST is not associated with LSA in any way. In theory you could play for GST and another team of both coaches are in step with scheduling. If we are being technical, yes. In theory you could, but why would you do that? In practicality, at most, you could play club and then guest play with GST (or any team nation wide). BRSC I'm pretty sure are both US Club and US Youth, so without approval you can't play any sanctioned games with GST (unless they have something else?) and BRSC won't (and shouldn't) give that approval. I'm not sure about AFSC, the other club they asked about. Of these 3 clubs you should pick the one that best fits your needs and play for them.
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Post by laffysoccermom on Jan 29, 2021 9:32:53 GMT -6
I would go to tryouts for all 3 and see where he feels best. This would also give you a chance to talk to parents and maybe some of the coaches. Once he gets his invites, you can make a choice.
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Post by barca22 on Feb 12, 2021 17:15:53 GMT -6
The club is the Gulf South Texans, not the Gulf Coast Texans. The Gulf Coast branch is located in Pensacola. The Gulf South branch is in the Baton Rouge area. The Gulf South Texans practice in Baton Rouge, but now have complex in Port Allen (the former Port Allen Soccer Complex). They also have 5 gyms where they play futsal when the weather makes the grass fields unplayable. This cuts out any rain outs. Their new office is in the Trinity/Parisi Sports Academy. They have a partnership for their kids to receive speed, agility, and quickness training at the facility. They do not have teams in each age group. That will change as it grows. They a satellite of the Dallas Texans, one of the top soccer clubs in the country, and have several players playing with their ECNL teams. They purposely do not play in LSA for various reasons. This means the will not compete in Louisiana State or President's cup, but will compete in US Club Soccer regional and national events. US Club Soccer and certain clubs in Louisiana will be hosting their own State Cup within two years. The Texans are a club, but lend their players out to any club and program that asks. This gives players extra experience. Orlando directs the: - Gulf South Texans- (a club in US Club Soccer); no LSA affiliation so they do not to abide by strict rules that diminish player development; based in Baton Rouge with the areas of West Baton Rouge and now expanding east; players come from as far as Lake Charles, Mandeville, Lafourche, and Houma.
- Louisiana United- a less restrictive and less expensive option to ODP; they attend 2 tournaments throughout the year and have 6 or more training sessions; the older players focus on the college recruiting process and attend 2 college showcases; players come mainly from Louisiana but teams have players from Mississippi, Texas, Florida, and California. Tryouts for the older age groups will be the weekend of February 20th and 21st. Coaches are from different clubs.
- Gulf States Futsal- a futsal league, camp, and tournament company that has events in the Gulf Coast from Texas through Florida.
My recommendation to you is contact each director, attend a training session or tryout, and see for yourself what both your son and family enjoy the most.
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Post by soccerfraud on Feb 17, 2021 21:02:47 GMT -6
I would choose GSC over any of the other clubs. They are all in for the money- even the new club.
At least at GSC and Bobby really cares about your child. Puts player development first and always focuses on growth.
I’ve heard mixed reviews of the Gulf Coast Texans- they’re coaching staff is not great but I know Orlando tries to work with all the age groups however I know many parents that are not happy with some of the clubs decisions especially only been established for less then 6 months.
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Post by time2retire on Feb 17, 2021 21:10:24 GMT -6
By GSC I think you’re talking about Gonzales or the Ascension Flight club?
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Post by viewgator91 on Feb 18, 2021 10:01:13 GMT -6
I would choose GSC over any of the other clubs. They are all in for the money- even the new club. At least at GSC and Bobby really cares about your child. Puts player development first and always focuses on growth. I’ve heard mixed reviews of the Gulf Coast Texans- they’re coaching staff is not great but I know Orlando tries to work with all the age groups however I know many parents that are not happy with some of the clubs decisions especially only been established for less then 6 months. Clubs aren't a one size fits all... my kids are at two different clubs because those clubs fit the individual kids needs. We have been really happy with BRSC of the three the original poster mentioned but that it needs to be a good fit for the kid/family.
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Post by realsoccer on Feb 22, 2021 7:55:47 GMT -6
Do any of you have opinions on them? I’m fixing to move My son over to club. He’s 11. My options are ascension flight, Baton Rouge soccer club. And now recently Gulf Coast Texans have popped up. Any of you know anything about Gulf Coast Texans? Gulf South Texans is a new club here in Baton Rouge. As any large market, Baton Rouge has the players to support multiple clubs. People around BR have only had one option and only know soccer via BRSC. Not all clubs fit everyone. My daughter plays with GST. They offer everything BRSC and Flight offer, and then some. Go to practices of the clubs and see which one your son likes the feel of. If more information is needed about GST, visit their website or reply here and I will help out. There isn’t a question I can’t answer about GST.
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Post by viewgator91 on Feb 22, 2021 8:49:08 GMT -6
Do any of you have opinions on them? I’m fixing to move My son over to club. He’s 11. My options are ascension flight, Baton Rouge soccer club. And now recently Gulf Coast Texans have popped up. Any of you know anything about Gulf Coast Texans? Gulf South Texans is a new club here in Baton Rouge. As any large market, Baton Rouge has the players to support multiple clubs. People around BR have only had one option and only know soccer via BRSC. Not all clubs fit everyone. My daughter plays with GST. They offer everything BRSC and Flight offer, and then some. Go to practices of the clubs and see which one your son likes the feel of. If more information is needed about GST, visit their website or reply here and I will help out. There isn’t a question I can’t answer about GST. I like what they are doing and love the small clubs, but GST does not and will not for some time offer, some of, what a BRSC does... Currently, you don't know if from season to season they will have enough players to field a team for your child, outside of 07G. IF you get a good coach (I hear most of their coaches are good) then training can be close to a push IF they have enough good players to push your child. Which GST team competes in GSPL, Midsouth, etc? Which age group do they offer multiple teams in both genders so every kid can play age and skill level appropriate? Open door policy where they can practice with kids +/- an age to push themselves if they so desire? Program structure, stability, facilities, tradition, DEPTH of coaching, financing/sponsors, etc... BRSC has been around for a long time and have infrastructure in place, not building. So if OP has a boy or girl that needs to compete consistently at the C1 level in their specific age group locally, GST doesn't currently offer that. They very may well in the future, but they can't right now. Maybe 1 or 2 teams are at that level or close, but they have to travel to get sanctioned competition at that level. With that being said, OP's kid might not need all that making GST a good option along with AFSC and BRSC.
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Post by realsoccer on Feb 22, 2021 11:33:12 GMT -6
GST is not associated with LSA in any way. In theory you could play for GST and another team of both coaches are in step with scheduling. If we are being technical, yes. In theory you could, but why would you do that? In practicality, at most, you could play club and then guest play with GST (or any team nation wide). BRSC I'm pretty sure are both US Club and US Youth, so without approval you can't play any sanctioned games with GST (unless they have something else?) and BRSC won't (and shouldn't) give that approval. I'm not sure about AFSC, the other club they asked about. Of these 3 clubs you should pick the one that best fits your needs and play for them. Viewgator....you are obviously tied into BRSC pretty good. Why would a club keep a player from guest playing with another team if it’s to the benefit of said player? This is about making players better. For a first season of the club, we had 5 full teams with many players of other ages just training.
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Post by barca22 on Feb 22, 2021 12:18:25 GMT -6
Gulf South Texans is a new club here in Baton Rouge. As any large market, Baton Rouge has the players to support multiple clubs. People around BR have only had one option and only know soccer via BRSC. Not all clubs fit everyone. My daughter plays with GST. They offer everything BRSC and Flight offer, and then some. Go to practices of the clubs and see which one your son likes the feel of. If more information is needed about GST, visit their website or reply here and I will help out. There isn’t a question I can’t answer about GST. I like what they are doing and love the small clubs, but GST does not and will not for some time offer, some of, what a BRSC does... Currently, you don't know if from season to season they will have enough players to field a team for your child, outside of 07G. IF you get a good coach (I hear most of their coaches are good) then training can be close to a push IF they have enough good players to push your child. Which GST team competes in GSPL, Midsouth, etc? Which age group do they offer multiple teams in both genders so every kid can play age and skill level appropriate? Open door policy where they can practice with kids +/- an age to push themselves if they so desire? Program structure, stability, facilities, tradition, DEPTH of coaching, financing/sponsors, etc... BRSC has been around for a long time and have infrastructure in place, not building. So if OP has a boy or girl that needs to compete consistently at the C1 level in their specific age group locally, GST doesn't currently offer that. They very may well in the future, but they can't right now. Maybe 1 or 2 teams are at that level or close, but they have to travel to get sanctioned competition at that level. With that being said, OP's kid might not need all that making GST a good option along with AFSC and BRSC.
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Post by barca22 on Feb 22, 2021 12:26:02 GMT -6
Viewgator,
Politely speaking, you clearly have been misled. The Texans do not need to play in those leagues. Orlando is the only coach in the area that has been a head coach at the Division I college level, pro level, and has worked with a national team. The club has sent 8 players to the Dallas ECNL groups to train. Four were selected as discovery players and one 2005 boy has been asked to move there and play on the 2004 ECNL team. Orlando has also take three BRSC girls from an older team to Dallas to be assessed by their ECNL coaches. Each commented that BRSC has never done that for them. It's one thing to promote a club, it's another to write posts that are untrue. If you would like to see what the club is about, contact the director and visit. How many clubs out there tell their kids to go tryout with all clubs and see what fits them best? We know BRSC does not. GSC does, and Texans do. Go check out how they train and what they do. I am sure they will welcome you.
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Post by viewgator91 on Feb 22, 2021 15:33:42 GMT -6
Viewgator, Politely speaking, you clearly have been misled. The Texans do not need to play in those leagues. Orlando is the only coach in the area that has been a head coach at the Division I college level, pro level, and has worked with a national team. The club has sent 8 players to the Dallas ECNL groups to train. Four were selected as discovery players and one 2005 boy has been asked to move there and play on the 2004 ECNL team. Orlando has also take three BRSC girls from an older team to Dallas to be assessed by their ECNL coaches. Each commented that BRSC has never done that for them. It's one thing to promote a club, it's another to write posts that are untrue. If you would like to see what the club is about, contact the director and visit. How many clubs out there tell their kids to go tryout with all clubs and see what fits them best? We know BRSC does not. GSC does, and Texans do. Go check out how they train and what they do. I am sure they will welcome you. barca22, I appreciate the feedback and if you read through this entire thread I have said nothing but all three are viable options and OP (original poster) should consider which is the best fit for his kid! None of the 3 are going to be the best fit for every kid. I have my kids at two different clubs because those clubs fit my players needs individually and what they want to get out of soccer. And yes, some kids/teams NEED to play in those leagues. We are able to get the competition level our team needs to play at without having to travel all over (which we still do). If my kid is C1 or C4, his team will play vs other teams the same level. If a team is C1 and not in those leagues, then they have to travel to play level competitions that are "competitive" or play friendlies where the two coaches my have different objectives (winning vs develpment). Again, I like what Orlando is doing for the area. I think he is a really good coach. My younger has played for Orlando multiple times (id2, scored a goal in the final for tournament championship) and Orlando helped elevate his game. Orlando is passionate about what he does. To reiterate they don't offer a lot of what BRSC does... They did not have a 2006 or 2008 team where my kids play. They can't provide an environment with 18 kids of the same age and same talent level to train with to get better. So the Texans can not offer me what my player needs. If they had a team for one of my kids and Orlando was the coach, there is only so much he can do if he has a diverse range of skilled kids (which most small clubs do, especially when they are combining ages). Maybe my kid needs to play at a lower or higher level than the other kids on the team? Iron sharpens iron, or if my kid is lower skilled than the team, my kid would be holding the drill up and probably not playing much. GST will not be the best fit for EVERY kid! Neither will BRSC or AFSC! Now if OP's kid like it there, they have a team for him in a similar skill level, it might work out! Second, BRSC is littered with discovery players for ECNL teams. I know two personally. I think it is great that the Texans can afford those kids the opportunity to be discovered. Sting has done the same with their 07/08 girls. BRSC also provides TDP which allowed a group of kids to train under and play vs the Houston Dynamo Academy team. All of these clubs are trying to do good things. (STYSA with GPS, etc..) Lastly, I haven't said anything negative about those other clubs. We came from a smaller club that used to promote trying out elsewhere... that's why we ended up at BRSC. BRSC has never suggested we not tryout anywhere else and also never recruited us prior to us joining. I understand some people don't get the experience they expected at BRSC and there is a legion that get on here and bad mouth the club. I'm just here to balance out the negativity and share that I have only had a positive experience so far!
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