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Post by upper90 on Feb 8, 2024 12:41:41 GMT -6
I also agree and I think it goes without saying, every team is going to show and be ready to play. Mardi Gras or not. I guess my point is most teams played wed, that gives you sat and Monday......as good potions. Why pick Tuesday (knowing its Mardi Gras). i guess it depends on who you draw. I would think the metro New Orleans would be a huge hassle, like willow or Newman during Mardi Gras day. Traffic alone on Tuesday will be a nightmare.....even in metairie is a pain. I will argue that Saturday/Sunday will be far more hectic in terms of trying to play within Metro NOLA. Parades go all day. On Lundi Gras, you're essentially open in the morning and early afternoon. But by mid-afternoon, people are getting ready for night parades. On Mardi Gras, you're realistically just fighting with the AM parades. By mid-afternoon/evening, everything should be clear and relatively little traffic; at least for Uptown. I can't imagine that there would be referee availability issues on MG day.
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Post by shootandscore on Feb 8, 2024 15:08:48 GMT -6
How many schools are going to force games on Mardi Gras day? Easiest answer would be to add a couple of days to play the game when it falls near Mardi Gras. The finals is not for two weeks why have Tuesday as deadline. Why not make it Thursday. I am sure the kids don’t care for most part but the families it effects could be a problem. Wonder if the New Orleans area schools will even be able to find refs. As for Football I don’t think any football playoff game has been played on Thanksgiving day. Practice at most. It is unfortunate that games may have to be played that day. Hopefully not.
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Post by upper90 on Feb 8, 2024 15:10:29 GMT -6
How many schools are going to force games on Mardi Gras day? Easiest answer would be to add a couple of days to play the game when it falls near Mardi Gras. The finals is not for two weeks why have Tuesday as deadline. Why not make it Thursday. I am sure the kids don’t care for most part but the families it effects could be a problem. Wonder if the New Orleans area schools will even be able to find refs. As for Football I don’t think any football playoff game has been played on Thanksgiving day. Practice at most. It is unfortunate that games may have to be played that day. Hopefully not. Refs for NOLA schools won’t be a problem. After all, common practice is to get referees from a different association. There’s 4 to choose from in the immediate area.
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Post by shootandscore on Feb 8, 2024 15:12:00 GMT -6
LHSAA just needs to extend the dates of the QF (to the Thurs after Mardi Gras) and SF (play from Fri to the Tues), yeah, might mean you're playing a SF on Tue and a Final on Saturday but that would be the compromise to not having to fight Mardi Gras. And would only need to be done on these type of years. Next year Mardi Gras is late so won't be a problem. It’s ashame that common sense like this is not applied to LHSAA. As for a sacrifice, I doubt the boys and coaches care, but I am sure their families do. Let’s be honest the families are the ones that help pay the bills, cover the gate etc.
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Post by retired_thibodaux_coach on Feb 8, 2024 15:21:02 GMT -6
Yeah I agree but I will mention that usually Thursday before football games is mostly walk throughs and that can easily be done early enough in the morning to not cause an issue for most. I've never been in that position before so I don't really know, I'm just assuming.. You gonna assume your way back to the field? I know there are a few openings coming up locally Hopefully someday, I'm just not sure when someday is for me. I do miss it though, I just don't miss the cold and wet and def not when they're mixed together. lol
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Post by soccerbr on Feb 8, 2024 15:54:02 GMT -6
I don't think it makes sense to change an entire playoff schedule that only really affects one MSA in the state, especially when it's a floating holiday. I realize other areas have some semblance of fat tuesday parades, but as a whole, it's really only New Orleans that is affected. While I understand there are a number of schools from that area, as someone mentioned above, the parades ride in the morning on Tuesday, and there are no evening parades. Is it really a "sacrifice" for families to have to possibly miss a few parades for the 4 (or less) years their kids play high school? Especially when it's not even guaranteed that they will make it to that round OR that it will be played at home. Let's at least be honest here - it's not about the traffic, it's about the intrusion of their day drinking to the fullest
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Post by coachchester on Feb 8, 2024 16:12:58 GMT -6
I feel like it’s a miss on most of the comments.
No team player or parent is going to miss due to Mardi Gras. Yes they will make the sacrifice. But seriously why should it be needed. You can pick from 4 days…. And some even play on Sundays. If u choose to play on Mardi Gras. It’s just a Coach/school being selfish or difficult It’s not about the players or an adult missing it’s a family day. What about the little brother and being with grandparents….. family. We don’t need LHSAA do anything. We need coach’s and schools to be reasonable. And not pick the holiday for the game. Just sad…. I hope whatever school picks Mardi. Doesn’t collect enough gate to pay the refs….
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Post by soccerbr on Feb 8, 2024 16:30:22 GMT -6
I feel like it’s a miss on most of the comments. No team player or parent is going to miss due to Mardi Gras. Yes they will make the sacrifice. But seriously why should it be needed. You can pick from 4 days…. And some even play on Sundays. If u choose to play on Mardi Gras. It’s just a Coach/school being selfish or difficult It’s not about the players or an adult missing it’s a family day. What about the little brother and being with grandparents….. family. We don’t need LHSAA do anything. We need coach’s and schools to be reasonable. And not pick the holiday for the game. Just sad…. I hope whatever school picks Mardi. Doesn’t collect enough gate to pay the refs…. To your point, it's arguable that Friday, Saturday, Sunday & Monday are all in the same boat, so now we are looking at 5 days that have conflicts because some schools may be in the affected area and might make it to that round of playoffs. In fact, Tuesday is the ONLY day that doesn't have an evening parade.
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Post by FromTheSpot on Feb 8, 2024 16:39:13 GMT -6
I feel like it’s a miss on most of the comments. No team player or parent is going to miss due to Mardi Gras. Yes they will make the sacrifice. But seriously why should it be needed. You can pick from 4 days…. And some even play on Sundays. If u choose to play on Mardi Gras. It’s just a Coach/school being selfish or difficult It’s not about the players or an adult missing it’s a family day. What about the little brother and being with grandparents….. family. We don’t need LHSAA do anything. We need coach’s and schools to be reasonable. And not pick the holiday for the game. Just sad…. I hope whatever school picks Mardi. Doesn’t collect enough gate to pay the refs…. Is it really that crazy to add an extra day or two to the deadline? If you want fans in the stands, and to help grow the sport in Louisiana, you do what you can to maximize the potential for fans/students to make it to the game. The student sections are what really make the atmosphere.
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Post by faintheart23 on Feb 8, 2024 16:44:22 GMT -6
I'm sure the weather forecast is forcing the issue in some cases. I still find it surprising that on the girl's side Parkview has scheduled their game with The Willow School at 1:00 pm on Mardi Gras day. I would think traffic would be "not great" getting out of town for that school, but obviously both coaches agreed.
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Post by coachchester on Feb 8, 2024 18:15:40 GMT -6
I'm sure the weather forecast is forcing the issue in some cases. I still find it surprising that on the girl's side Parkview has scheduled their game with The Willow School at 1:00 pm on Mardi Gras day. I would think traffic would be "not great" getting out of town for that school, but obviously both coaches agreed. lol. That will be a nightmare…
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Post by DocT on Feb 8, 2024 18:24:22 GMT -6
Blame it all on the Refs and be done with it!! They are terrible anyway
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Post by tarahighschool on Feb 8, 2024 20:05:11 GMT -6
If teams can’t agree on a date/time is there a default day/time that game wil be set to? Was thinking last day of window and some certain time? Last day of the window at 3:30pm the lhsaa handbook stated unless the last day to play a round is on Mardi Gras day then LHSAA picks another day if one coach does not want to play on Mardi Gras or something to that effect Soccer handbook 18.7.6 basically a team can’t be forced to play in 3:30 Mardi Gras day.
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Post by upper90 on Feb 9, 2024 6:06:36 GMT -6
I'm sure the weather forecast is forcing the issue in some cases. I still find it surprising that on the girl's side Parkview has scheduled their game with The Willow School at 1:00 pm on Mardi Gras day. I would think traffic would be "not great" getting out of town for that school, but obviously both coaches agreed. lol. That will be a nightmare… Shouldn't be that big of a deal. School is located well outside of "the box". Kids getting to the school for a bus ride might be the only issue. Once they're at the school, getting a bus to the interstate and beyond shouldn't be too terribly difficult. No parades in the immediate area between school and interestate.
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Post by upper90 on Feb 9, 2024 6:08:38 GMT -6
Last day of the window at 3:30pm the lhsaa handbook stated unless the last day to play a round is on Mardi Gras day then LHSAA picks another day if one coach does not want to play on Mardi Gras or something to that effect Soccer handbook 18.7.6 basically a team can’t be forced to play in 3:30 Mardi Gras day. My understanding is that rule is solely for the State Championship games.
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 9, 2024 8:33:38 GMT -6
I feel like it’s a miss on most of the comments. No team player or parent is going to miss due to Mardi Gras. Yes they will make the sacrifice. But seriously why should it be needed. You can pick from 4 days…. And some even play on Sundays. If u choose to play on Mardi Gras. It’s just a Coach/school being selfish or difficult It’s not about the players or an adult missing it’s a family day. What about the little brother and being with grandparents….. family. We don’t need LHSAA do anything. We need coach’s and schools to be reasonable. And not pick the holiday for the game. Just sad…. I hope whatever school picks Mardi. Doesn’t collect enough gate to pay the refs…. So you are saying a team from outside the Nola area should “be reasonable” so the home teams parents and families can go drink on St Charles and Canal street on Fat Tuesday? I’m not sure you are living in reality
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Post by el_jefe on Feb 9, 2024 9:05:05 GMT -6
Some people in New Orleans invest thousands of dollars into riding in a parade on Mardi Gras day. They will just have to walk away from it. Happening this year with a few I know whose kids games are now going to be on Tuesday. Not about day drinking and partying, Mardi Gras day is not that fun.
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 9, 2024 9:12:20 GMT -6
Some people in New Orleans invest thousands of dollars into riding in a parade on Mardi Gras day. They will just have to walk away from it. Happening this year with a few I know whose kids games are now going to be on Tuesday. Not about day drinking and partying, Mardi Gras day is not that fun. That’s a choice they made when they signed up for the parade. Everyone can see the schedule of the playoffs over the summer, they make their decision, and if a conflict arises, it’s now on them to pick what they will do. It’s definitely not on any team outside of Nola to work around their conflict. And to think a team, inside or out of Nola should way that into their decision on a game day is, well self centered to put it mildly.
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Post by realitycheck on Feb 9, 2024 9:56:53 GMT -6
lol. That will be a nightmare… Shouldn't be that big of a deal. School is located well outside of "the box". Kids getting to the school for a bus ride might be the only issue. Once they're at the school, getting a bus to the interstate and beyond shouldn't be too terribly difficult. No parades in the immediate area between school and interestate. Id say that coaches from outside of NOLA using 'playing on Tuesday' as weapon, as the know its an issue for NOLA schools, is problematic. Putting their head in the sand and having zero communication on play date possibilities, say nope, Tuesday is the day. That's the issue for me
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 9, 2024 10:41:56 GMT -6
Shouldn't be that big of a deal. School is located well outside of "the box". Kids getting to the school for a bus ride might be the only issue. Once they're at the school, getting a bus to the interstate and beyond shouldn't be too terribly difficult. No parades in the immediate area between school and interestate. Id say that coaches from outside of NOLA using 'playing on Tuesday' as weapon, as the know its an issue for NOLA schools, is problematic. Putting their head in the sand and having zero communication on play date possibilities, say nope, Tuesday is the day. That's the issue for me Maybe I’m in the minority here, but at this point in the playoffs, isn’t the goal to win? Don’t teams use whatever tools they have, to their advantage (legal ones I’m referring to) such as using a grass field against a turf field team, or vis versa, when possible? Or playing on the LHSAA mandated day? All this as opposed to letting their opponent have the advantage of full choice of day? Or pulling all film off of YouTube so your opponent can’t scout you? again maybe I’m the only one who thinks this way? But I doubt that is true. **I mean ONLY legal things, I can’t stress this enough**
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