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Post by upper90 on Feb 9, 2024 10:48:50 GMT -6
Id say that coaches from outside of NOLA using 'playing on Tuesday' as weapon, as the know its an issue for NOLA schools, is problematic. Putting their head in the sand and having zero communication on play date possibilities, say nope, Tuesday is the day. That's the issue for me Maybe I’m in the minority here, but at this point in the playoffs, isn’t the goal to win? Don’t teams use whatever tools they have, to their advantage (legal ones I’m referring to) such as using a grass field against a turf field team, or vis versa, when possible? Or playing on the LHSAA mandated day? All this as opposed to letting their opponent have the advantage of full choice of day? Or pulling all film off of YouTube so your opponent can’t scout you? again maybe I’m the only one who thinks this way? But I doubt that is true. **I mean ONLY legal things, I can’t stress this enough** I’d venture to say though, that although it’s the competitive nature of playoffs, there are still ways to have a competitive edge and still remain sportsmanlike. Be an adult. Cooperate to the best of your ability. Communicate early and often. But yes, there are coaches who use the “it’s the day and that’s what we’re doing”, and then cease communication until gameday, or just absolutely won’t cooperate even a little bit.
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Post by JoshuaC on Feb 9, 2024 10:53:15 GMT -6
A gameday White Russian daiquiri solves any Mardi Gras Day issues in my opinion.
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Post by retired_thibodaux_coach on Feb 9, 2024 11:03:08 GMT -6
Maybe I’m in the minority here, but at this point in the playoffs, isn’t the goal to win? Don’t teams use whatever tools they have, to their advantage (legal ones I’m referring to) such as using a grass field against a turf field team, or vis versa, when possible? Or playing on the LHSAA mandated day? All this as opposed to letting their opponent have the advantage of full choice of day? Or pulling all film off of YouTube so your opponent can’t scout you? again maybe I’m the only one who thinks this way? But I doubt that is true. **I mean ONLY legal things, I can’t stress this enough** I’d venture to say though, that although it’s the competitive nature of playoffs, there are still ways to have a competitive edge and still remain sportsmanlike. Be an adult. Cooperate to the best of your ability. Communicate early and often. But yes, there are coaches who use the “it’s the day and that’s what we’re doing”, and then cease communication until gameday, or just absolutely won’t cooperate even a little bit. yeah, not a fan of that. I get being competitive but c'mon! Sportsmanship should be key. Once again, it could all be avoided if LHSAA would just extend the game dates during the times Mardi Gras collides with the playoffs. Make the last day the Thursday and you can avoid "it's the day and that's what we're doing" issue for Mardi Gras day.
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Post by leboeufcj on Feb 9, 2024 11:04:32 GMT -6
I am assuming we will be coming from across the state on Fat Tuesday to play Willow. I will take the traffic nightmare. It sure beats turning in uniforms for the end of season. Looking forward to a wonderful match!
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 9, 2024 11:04:37 GMT -6
A gameday White Russian daiquiri solves any Mardi Gras Day issues in my opinion. Are you buying? Because I’m in!
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 9, 2024 11:12:32 GMT -6
Maybe I’m in the minority here, but at this point in the playoffs, isn’t the goal to win? Don’t teams use whatever tools they have, to their advantage (legal ones I’m referring to) such as using a grass field against a turf field team, or vis versa, when possible? Or playing on the LHSAA mandated day? All this as opposed to letting their opponent have the advantage of full choice of day? Or pulling all film off of YouTube so your opponent can’t scout you? again maybe I’m the only one who thinks this way? But I doubt that is true. **I mean ONLY legal things, I can’t stress this enough** I’d venture to say though, that although it’s the competitive nature of playoffs, there are still ways to have a competitive edge and still remain sportsmanlike. Be an adult. Cooperate to the best of your ability. Communicate early and often. But yes, there are coaches who use the “it’s the day and that’s what we’re doing”, and then cease communication until gameday, or just absolutely won’t cooperate even a little bit. I do agree here, I’m not talking about being a a$$, o just mean, clearly communicating that the mandated day and time is what they are willing to do, and being civil in all manners is fair. Or saying we are playing at BF not Pan Am is again fair (using my turf example above) civility is always a requirement. One thing to keep in mind here is the reverse of this. I know of a coach or 2 being less civil about trying to force a team to play Monday and not Tuesday. Isn’t this action just as wrong. It’s not all on the team wanting to play Tuesday. And you know I have no dog in this fight, just sharing to the conversation. Liveliness has been lacking on the boards this year.
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Post by time2retire on Feb 9, 2024 11:36:20 GMT -6
Handbook 18.7.4
The home team shall have the option to name the site it normally uses as its home field as the playoff game site. If the home team chooses a playing field other than its normally used home field, both teams shall agree to the change.
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 9, 2024 11:48:55 GMT -6
Handbook 18.7.4 The home team shall have the option to name the site it normally uses as its home field as the playoff game site. If the home team chooses a playing field other than its normally used home field, both teams shall agree to the change. Interesting tidbit. What happens if Pan Am and Tad Gromley are being used at the agreed upon time, but the away team is adamant about not defaulting to BF? And this question is not about the example above, but more for curiousity. Since so many Nola teams use those fields. Benton and haughton use either Tinsley (rarely) bossier, airline or parkway. Magnet and Shreve generally share Lee hedges/caddo field. And I’m sure there are other multi team fields. Possibly where sportsmanship comes into play.
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Post by soccerbr on Feb 9, 2024 11:58:38 GMT -6
Id say that coaches from outside of NOLA using 'playing on Tuesday' as weapon, as the know its an issue for NOLA schools, is problematic. Putting their head in the sand and having zero communication on play date possibilities, say nope, Tuesday is the day. That's the issue for me Maybe I’m in the minority here, but at this point in the playoffs, isn’t the goal to win? Don’t teams use whatever tools they have, to their advantage (legal ones I’m referring to) such as using a grass field against a turf field team, or vis versa, when possible? Or playing on the LHSAA mandated day? All this as opposed to letting their opponent have the advantage of full choice of day? Or pulling all film off of YouTube so your opponent can’t scout you? again maybe I’m the only one who thinks this way? But I doubt that is true. **I mean ONLY legal things, I can’t stress this enough** I said this on a previous post in response: it's arguable that Friday, Saturday, Sunday & Monday are all in the same boat, so now we are looking at 5 days that have conflicts because some schools may be in the affected area and MIGHT make it to that round of playoffs. In fact, Tuesday is the ONLY day that doesn't have an evening parade. There is NO "good day" to schedule a game over Mardi Gras weekend. To your point, if other teams are expected to accommodate NOLA, then they would have to limit the entire 5 day holiday, and it's not reasonable for the entire state to shift a schedule based on one area. It's not even about "weaponizing", when it's not only Tuesday that is the issue.
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Post by JoshuaC on Feb 9, 2024 12:35:31 GMT -6
A gameday White Russian daiquiri solves any Mardi Gras Day issues in my opinion. Are you buying? Because I’m in! Fat Tuesday. 1 pm. Archbishop Rummel high school. See you there.
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Post by time2retire on Feb 9, 2024 14:04:57 GMT -6
After all, common practice is to get referees from a different association. There’s 4 to choose from in the immediate area. If that’s the case then 4 reduces to 3 or 2 depending on where the visiting team is from. The only two sports (beside track and field) that choose officials associations within the playoffs are soccer and volleyball. The rest are selected by LHSOA/LHSAA for all rounds. Some associations will have a large chunk of quarter and semi games and some will have zero - in the not-so-distant past, one association had 11 of 16 semifinals with one referee working two semifinal whistles in the same day. That shouldn’t happen. Handbook 8.6.7 needs to change if we are going to promote a better all-around product in all areas. I want to draft a proposal that allows coaches to continue making their agreements but one that ensures areas are getting equal representation. I would have to convince a principal to submit it. But I think in the long run (and long after I’m gone) this would result in more experience spread out at those stages, and that’s a win for all.
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Post by Chalmetteowl on Feb 9, 2024 18:08:22 GMT -6
Shouldn't be that big of a deal. School is located well outside of "the box". Kids getting to the school for a bus ride might be the only issue. Once they're at the school, getting a bus to the interstate and beyond shouldn't be too terribly difficult. No parades in the immediate area between school and interestate. Id say that coaches from outside of NOLA using 'playing on Tuesday' as weapon, as the know its an issue for NOLA schools, is problematic. Putting their head in the sand and having zero communication on play date possibilities, say nope, Tuesday is the day. That's the issue for me Well when you’re a home team you’ve earned that right within LHSAA rules. You pick the field, you pick the time, you contract the refs…
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 9, 2024 19:13:34 GMT -6
Id say that coaches from outside of NOLA using 'playing on Tuesday' as weapon, as the know its an issue for NOLA schools, is problematic. Putting their head in the sand and having zero communication on play date possibilities, say nope, Tuesday is the day. That's the issue for me Well when you’re a home team you’ve earned that right within LHSAA rules. You pick the field, you pick the time, you contract the refs… 0 for 3. According to Time2retire your home field must be used or agree on another field. The coaches agree on day and time, if they can’t it’s the last day at 3:30. And the coaches agree on where to get the refs from. But thanks for playing.
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Post by Monroe Area Schools on Feb 10, 2024 7:30:22 GMT -6
After all, common practice is to get referees from a different association. There’s 4 to choose from in the immediate area. If that’s the case then 4 reduces to 3 or 2 depending on where the visiting team is from. The only two sports (beside track and field) that choose officials associations within the playoffs are soccer and volleyball. The rest are selected by LHSOA/LHSAA for all rounds. Some associations will have a large chunk of quarter and semi games and some will have zero - in the not-so-distant past, one association had 11 of 16 semifinals with one referee working two semifinal whistles in the same day. That shouldn’t happen. Handbook 8.6.7 needs to change if we are going to promote a better all-around product in all areas. I want to draft a proposal that allows coaches to continue making their agreements but one that ensures areas are getting equal representation. I would have to convince a principal to submit it. But I think in the long run (and long after I’m gone) this would result in more experience spread out at those stages, and that’s a win for all. Ahh, but this would require the LHSAA to care about soccer even a slight little bit, which they do not, as is evidenced by the fact that literally no rules are ever enforced and we have the jankiest and most unfair power point formula imaginable. Not to mention the absolute worst playing season available. The less the LHSAA office hears about soccer or has to deal with it, the better, as far as they are concerned. And the further north you get, the less they care. If the LHSAA had to assign officials to a Monroe area game we'd probably get two squirrels and a stick of gum.
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Post by onlythefacts on Feb 11, 2024 17:06:32 GMT -6
How many schools are going to force games on Mardi Gras day? Some aren’t going to have a choice…
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