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Post by futbolfan34 on Jan 30, 2007 10:55:43 GMT -6
This is week 1's official top 10. Not that bad of a first week ranking, that is if you are a baby suffering from down syndrome. Yall had last year's State runner up at number 8, and the STATE CHAMPS didn't even make the top 10. 4 of the 5 teams Carencro beat in the playoffs to win state last year were ranked ahead of them. Now as we approach the post-season we see that both Carencro and Fountainebleau have won district titles and went undefeated in doing so, and they are ranked #2 and #3 in state. Wow! Talk about a major f up. I just hope yall aren't as incompetent at yall jobs and schools as yall are at voting for high school soccer.
Week 1: LAPrep Official Top 10
« Thread Started on Nov 19, 2006, 9:02pm »
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November 19, 2006
LAHSsoccer.com 2006 Week 1 Soccer Rankings
(First place votes in parenthesis)
Division I
1. Jesuit 78 (6)
2. Lafayette 74 (2)
3. Brother Martin 60
4. Dutchtown 41
5. St. Paul's 35
5. Rummel 35
7. Acadiana 31
8. Fontainebleau
9. Caddo Magnet 19
10. Catholic BR 14
Others Receiving votes:
Carencro 11
Baton Rouge 7
Byrd 2
St. Amant 1
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Post by brsoccerla on Jan 30, 2007 11:22:59 GMT -6
100% AGREE. How exactly does the voting go about. How many people vote. Who's vote actually counts? Who does the voting (anyone)? How do you get selected to vote?
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Post by Bish on Jan 30, 2007 12:07:54 GMT -6
This is week 1's official top 10. Not that bad of a first week ranking, that is if you are a baby suffering from down syndrome. Yall had last year's State runner up at number 8, and the STATE CHAMPS didn't even make the top 10. 4 of the 5 teams Carencro beat in the playoffs to win state last year were ranked ahead of them. Now as we approach the post-season we see that both Carencro and Fountainebleau have won district titles and went undefeated in doing so, and they are ranked #2 and #3 in state. Wow! Talk about a major f up. I just hope yall aren't as incompetent at yall jobs and schools as yall are at voting for high school soccer. Week 1: LAPrep Official Top 10 « Thread Started on Nov 19, 2006, 9:02pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- November 19, 2006 LAHSsoccer.com 2006 Week 1 Soccer Rankings (First place votes in parenthesis) Division I 1. Jesuit 78 (6) 2. Lafayette 74 (2) 3. Brother Martin 60 4. Dutchtown 41 5. St. Paul's 35 5. Rummel 35 7. Acadiana 31 8. Fontainebleau 9. Caddo Magnet 19 10. Catholic BR 14 Others Receiving votes: Carencro 11 Baton Rouge 7 Byrd 2 St. Amant 1 Please shut up and never post again. If you knew anything about what you were talkinga bout, you'd know that polls are about recent results and expectations. Just because they won State last year doesn't mean Carencro will have a good team this year. Maybe some people were lead to believe that Carencro isn't the same team as last year. After all, they did tie Opelousas Catholic in a scrimmage prior to the first poll, and also tied Lafayette's JV soon after this poll was released. That's probably why they weren't ranked again the next week, and rightfully so. Fountainebleau also had a rough start, losing two scrimmages, and barely squeeking by Mandeville and Northshore - two weak teams. Teams improve throughout the season, and obviously Carencro and Fountainebleau have. Maybe that's a little too hard for you to understand. Put aside your loyalty to Carencro before you make any more judgements about the voters. |
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Post by Bish on Jan 30, 2007 12:42:24 GMT -6
Ok, I stand corrected.
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Post by PutMeInCoach2 on Jan 30, 2007 12:50:19 GMT -6
I will state this. You want new voters. You organize it, you do all the research. You keep everything up to date. You do all work. Hell do everything, lets see your polls.
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Post by futbolfan34 on Jan 30, 2007 12:56:55 GMT -6
Mr. Bish you claim i don't know what im talkin about and argue that people may have been led to believe that Cro wouldnt have as good as a team. Even though they were retuning 5 starters, along with a 1st team all-state goalie and arguably the most talented striker in the state. Yet you think Lafayette being ranked at #2 is well-justified, even though they lossed their entire starting 11 besides their goalie who no one respected last year anyways. I'm sry but your gonna have to give me something other than a preseason tie to an average Div III team as your arguement. I am not trying to be biased and im trying to show favoritism, but it doesn't make sense and you know it.
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Post by futbolfan34 on Jan 30, 2007 13:04:39 GMT -6
You say teams improve throughout the season but both teams went undefeated in district and have only 2 loses throughout the season. So if you don't mind me asking, at exactly what point in the season did either of these teams need to begin improving?
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Post by tsumi77 on Jan 30, 2007 13:07:35 GMT -6
... it's quite easy to come on this site bashing the work of others when you don't like the way the polls are! Rankings are based on weekly results and on personal opinions!! THANKS to all who participate and help to keep this site updated... it is still the best source of information for HS soccer in Louisiana!! For all the haters and the ones who cannot appreciate the work and effort put into this forum: ALLEZ-VOUS FAIRE FOUTRE  |
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Post by futbolfan34 on Jan 30, 2007 13:23:54 GMT -6
ok yall are getting the wrong idea here. I am not a hater nor am i trying to put down yall efforts which clearly demands a great deal of time and hard work. Without yall, this site would not exist. I was merely wandering how so many people could get it wrong. I know this is past events and have no bearing on the playoffs, but imagine how fountainebleau and carencro players felt after seeing what everyone apparently thought of all their accomplishments.
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Post by Bish on Jan 30, 2007 13:46:10 GMT -6
Mr. Bish you claim i don't know what im talkin about and argue that people may have been led to believe that Cro wouldnt have as good as a team. Even though they were retuning 5 starters, along with a 1st team all-state goalie and arguably the most talented striker in the state. Yet you think Lafayette being ranked at #2 is well-justified, even though they lossed their entire starting 11 besides their goalie who no one respected last year anyways. I'm sry but your gonna have to give me something other than a preseason tie to an average Div III team as your arguement. I am not trying to be biased and im trying to show favoritism, but it doesn't make sense and you know it. 5 starters is less than half the team. I didn't mean the same team literally. I meant that they didn't seem to have the chemistry of last year's team. I think they should have been ranked, but not incredibly high. They did lose to a JV team the next week, which brought down everybody's expectations for this team. And when did I ever mention Lafayette? You lost me there. You say teams improve throughout the season but both teams went undefeated in district and have only 2 loses throughout the season. So if you don't mind me asking, at exactly what point in the season did either of these teams need to begin improving? Well if it were Carencro, right after their tie and loss in the Carencro tournament. I thought that was rather obvious. Fountainebleau hasn't had any impressive wins besides maybe agains ta struggling St. Pauls. I don't think they should be #3, but that's just me. They are ranked because they've won the games they were supposed to win. I'd have fountainebleau somewhere in the middle, about the same way they started off. |
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Post by Bish on Jan 30, 2007 13:49:52 GMT -6
I know this is past events and have no bearing on the playoffs, but imagine how fountainebleau and carencro players felt after seeing what everyone apparently thought of all their accomplishments. These are polls from 10 people in the state. The polls do not reflect "accomplishments" nor do they reflect the opinions of "everyone." The players shouldn't even care about the rankings. I know I didn't. Usually the ones that are so worried about their ranking never amount to anything anyway. |
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Post by coachray40 on Jan 30, 2007 15:05:39 GMT -6
Great....another kid just discovered LAPrep and has decided to come blow his head. Funny thing has happened since Oct 23--WE PLAYED A WHOLE LOT OF GAMES!! Polls are fluid items that change as results are accrued over time. LAST YEAR Carencro finished third in their district and then got on a great run and won state--I think that was great for LA HS soccer. LAST YEAR Fontainebleau made the playoffs for I believe the second time ever, played great, got some help from LHSAA, pulled off probably the biggest upset of all time in LA HS soccer and got to the finals. LAST YEAR. Last year each of these teams lost 8 games (FHS 26-9-1, Cro 23-8-1). They did great LAST YEAR. At the beginning of this year, most folks figured that while both of those teams did well, and both would be decent, they would be hard pressed to do it again. Checking history, you'll see that the privates and the 6 biggest enrollment schools in LA have dominated D1 play over the last few years. No reason to give Cro and FHS the top. So, lets re examine the "Down Syndrome" voting by the pollsters:
Jesuit started #1 and is still there. They have given up 5 goals all year. what is wrong with their being chosen #1 then and now?
8 of the teams that were ranked in Top 10 in the first poll
are still there in the last one, with 2 teams in exactly the same spot they started(Jesuit at 1, Acadiana at 7) How is this so off kilter? Cro was ranked 11 and moved up to 2, its not like they came from nowhere. I understand your passion for what is probably your team, but if you take the time to really look at the polls and compare them, You would have to think the pollsters did pretty good job--especially considering the inconsistency of this season, high # of ties, and bad weather.
I'm just not following your logic that the system is flawed. And by the way, I dont vote.
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Post by futbolfan34 on Jan 30, 2007 20:56:34 GMT -6
Hey Mr. Bish you couldn't be more wrong here. The rankings and things people say on this site do matter, and you are a fool if you think they do not. Me and my teamates used to come on this site everyday and just read, not respond, but just read people' s comments and votes. It motivated us. It pushed us to prove them wrong. And we ended up winning state. If that amounts to nothing, well then there's no point in playing high school soccer
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Post by doornobcrusher on Jan 30, 2007 21:20:38 GMT -6
futbolfan34, first of all, you are an idiot... 2nd of all, dont start a thread just so you can argue with anyone who opposes you, 3rd of all, these rankings dont mean anything, and if it takes these rankings to get you pumped up to prove people wrong well then you shouldnt be playing soccer. you should get pumped for the games and pumped to win state without these. and i still dont think carencro is the 2nd best team in the state.
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Post by futbolfan34 on Jan 30, 2007 21:29:43 GMT -6
Coachray the system is flawed. Im not trying to be rude. I commend the voters on the percentage of teams they got right. But that don't mean yall know shiit about Div. I soccer. I guarantee you if you ask any current player thier top 10 they'd be able to name ten teams and get 8 out of 10 right just as yall did. So get over yall selves. My point is yall missed the two most obvious teams(other than Jesuit). You think when it comes time for college football votes to make their preseason polls next year they're going to put the Florida Gators at 11 or 12. Give me a break. If you ask me Coachray it is much more logical to question the voting system than it is to vote 10 teams ahead of the defending state champs. But i mean what do i know. I'm just a kid.
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Post by futbolfan34 on Jan 30, 2007 21:33:23 GMT -6
It does mean stuff to the players. You don't think Jesuit is proud of their nationally ranked status?
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Post by doornobcrusher on Jan 30, 2007 21:34:11 GMT -6
that has nothing to do with the laprep rankings
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Post by futbolfan34 on Jan 30, 2007 21:42:20 GMT -6
your right but the rest of the teams aren't as good as Jesuit. For some of them getting up to the top 3 or top 5 in the state is a tough feat and you can bet they are proud for having done so. I'm not saying that's all their playing for, but it does feel good to recieve some level of recognition. And the polls are a source of recognition.
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Post by doornobcrusher on Jan 30, 2007 21:43:42 GMT -6
i agree but the polls are just for fun, its nothing official.
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Post by futbolfan34 on Jan 30, 2007 21:48:07 GMT -6
well yea i mean no poll is official. That's why they call it a poll. Its a recorded average of opinions, nothing more. But it does hold meaning to the players as well as the fans. If it didn't their would be no reason in even bothering with a top 10
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