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Post by bouree on Feb 17, 2005 13:23:02 GMT -6
Someone asked for the 8 mandatory cautions on another thread. I thought it appropriate to paste them here as well. 1.If a player enters the field of play without referee’s permission
2.If a player changes places with the goalkeeper without referee’s permission
3.More than 11 players on the field
4.If a player has left the field to fix equipment and re-enters without referee’s permission
5.If a player uses trickery to circumvent the law
6.If a player simulates action with intent to deceive the referee
7.If a player distracts or impedes the thrower
8.A player who has been replaced returns to the field as a substitute.
Another has been added recently but is not included in the eight: Removal of jersey for celebration after a goal. I can elaborate on any of the above if needed.
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Post by takeitdowntown1 on Feb 17, 2005 13:43:07 GMT -6
who gets carded if there are more than 11 players on the field.
The coach?
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Post by nikademus on Feb 17, 2005 13:46:09 GMT -6
if i remember right, it is the 12th player, or if the referee cant determine who the extra player is it would be the captain of that team
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Post by on Feb 17, 2005 14:42:33 GMT -6
For FIFA Laws, the 12th player (last player on) is cautioned. If the ref doesnt know, then they screwd up. Cannot caution the captain under FIFA for some other unknown player's transgressions. This is one of those cautions rarely given. If a referee has allowed 12 players on by mismanaging subs, then the referee screwed up and cant caution anyone. But if a 12th player comes on for other reasons, then he could be booked. Remember that cautions are given to modify a behaviour. Referees should be verbal first (if possible). If a behaviour persists, then they must be dealt with. Sometimes verbal is not in order becasue of the nature of the offense. A bad tackle that does not get cautioned tells other players that there are no consequences and the opposing players will seek their own retribution. Then watch the game go downhill. In these cases, the caution protects opposing players but also protects the player who fouled. The caution tells players (or should) that the ref is handling this player and everyone else should let me deal with him. Let me also add that while Bouree's short version of the 8 cautions is correct, there is a lot of language that goes along with those in terms of what constitutes those actions. Want more info on how refs should "interpret" the Laws of the Game. Check this website for The "Advice to Referees". This is a supplement to the Laws and explains things like a "handball". What is and what isnt. www.ussoccer.com/templates/includes/services/referees/pdfs/Advice2003.pdf Good bathroom reading.
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Post by Bish on Feb 17, 2005 14:48:13 GMT -6
I've always known it to be the coach getting the card.
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Post by bouree on Feb 17, 2005 15:16:11 GMT -6
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Post by PAUL McCOY on Feb 17, 2005 15:25:09 GMT -6
i wouldnt recommend you bringing your computer into a bathroom and reading it, especially if it is a laptop. in case any of you care, guys aren't supposed to use laptops on their laps cuz it has bad effects on certain areas. my mom told me that the other day.
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Post by takeitdowntown1 on Feb 17, 2005 15:43:50 GMT -6
What if you start the game with 12 players and the ref didn't mess up on subs. Who gets carded?
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Post by nikademus on Feb 17, 2005 15:45:41 GMT -6
cant caution anyone-------^^^^^
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Post by Bish on Feb 17, 2005 15:54:30 GMT -6
What if you start off with 18 players instead of 11, and the ref didn't catch it.
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Post by PAUL McCOY on Feb 17, 2005 15:56:53 GMT -6
then they get a new ref
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Post by Bish on Feb 17, 2005 16:02:44 GMT -6
Ok what if a player has a 1 on 1 with the keeper, jukes the keeper at the 18, and sends a nice slow roller to the goal, but the ball suddenly explodes on the 6 yard line. What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO
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Post by PAUL McCOY on Feb 17, 2005 16:03:35 GMT -6
red card the keeper for being so ugly that the ball exploded
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Post by outsidelookingin on Feb 17, 2005 16:11:05 GMT -6
Understandable. I see what you arew trying to do (and applaud it), and it wasn't right to point out such small errors. Keep up the work, and I will assist you when I can
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Post by brhsoccer14 on Feb 17, 2005 16:14:19 GMT -6
Ok what if a player has a 1 on 1 with the keeper, jukes the keeper at the 18, and sends a nice slow roller to the goal, but the ball suddenly explodes on the 6 yard line. What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO Drop Ball. According to Law 2: Replacement of a Defective Ball ~If the ball bursts or becomes defective during the course of a mtach: a. The match is stopped b. The match is restarted by DROPPING the replacement ball at the place where the ball BECAME defective Since the ball burst on the six, it will be taken at that point, if it burst on the goal line, it would be dropped at the six on the line closest to where it became defective... Deliberate Handling: Yes, there are very few incidents that are actual deliberate handling. If you just read the title, you should understand it... HANDLING... when you think of this word, think of something outside of "soccer" . When you handle a device, you usually have control of the device. Think of it in "soccer" terms now and you have it. And according to FIFA rules, not LHSAA since I don't know those as well, the coach can't be cautioned under FIFA sanctioned games.
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Post by brhsoccer14 on Feb 17, 2005 16:15:13 GMT -6
Ok what if a player has a 1 on 1 with the keeper, jukes the keeper at the 18, and sends a nice slow roller to the goal, but the ball suddenly explodes on the 6 yard line. What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO Drop Ball. According to Law 2: Replacement of a Defective Ball ~If the ball bursts or becomes defective during the course of a mtach: a. The match is stopped b. The match is restarted by DROPPING the replacement ball at the place where the ball BECAME defective Since the ball burst on the six, it will be taken at that point, if it burst on the goal line, it would be dropped at the six on the line closest to where it became defective... Deliberate Handling: Yes, there are very few incidents that are actual deliberate handling. If you just read the title, you should understand it... HANDLING... when you think of this word, think of something outside of "soccer" . When you handle a device, you usually have control of the device. Think of it in "soccer" terms now and you have it. And according to FIFA rules, not LHSAA since I don't know those as well, the coach can't be cautioned under FIFA sanctioned games. Correct me if I am wrong MOM!
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Post by on Feb 17, 2005 16:20:30 GMT -6
Coaches cannot be cautioned or sent off (under FIFA).
They can be warned (Coach, start warming up your assistant) and dismissed.......
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Post by PAUL McCOY on Feb 17, 2005 16:49:26 GMT -6
is that why people say you arent supposed to show the coach a card?
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Post by takeitdowntown1 on Feb 17, 2005 17:11:33 GMT -6
I saw a dog run onto the field one time and interfere with the play in progress. Can you give a dog a red card and send him off.
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Post by bouree on Feb 17, 2005 17:13:48 GMT -6
Coaches cannot be cautioned or sent off (under FIFA). They can be warned (Coach, start warming up your assistant) and dismissed.......[/quote futbol is life, sorry to tell you, but you are wrong. Of course coaches can be cautioned or sent off, they just aren't shown the cards. The refs tells them they are either cautioned our dismissed.
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