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Post by bouree on Feb 17, 2005 17:16:30 GMT -6
I saw a dog run onto the field one time and interfere with the play in progress. Can you give a dog a red card and send him off. It's not in the law book, but my friend red carded a dog and it got a huge laugh.
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Post by on Feb 17, 2005 17:22:41 GMT -6
Yes, that is why coaches are not supposed to be shown a card.
And the dog on the field....I did actually see a ref red card a dog for coming on the field. It certainly did get a laugh from all.
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Post by Gator_Runner83 on Feb 17, 2005 18:17:53 GMT -6
Ok, what happens if the dog leads the blind referee onto the field? I certainly don't remember seeing that dog carded.
What about you Mom? or brhs?
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Post by brhsoccer14 on Feb 17, 2005 19:15:17 GMT -6
I'm not sure most people will get that, but I understand where you are coming from.
Sorry folks, however much fun it is, the dog can not be carded since it is not a player, a substitute, or a substituted player. But, on the fun side, that would be pretty funny to see.
Yes, the coach can be warned, but is not actually quote-unquote 'cautioned' in the sense of a card, but yes, they can be warned and then sent-off, they are just shown the card. Is it different in high school, though? I'm not sure about LHSAA rules since I am not quite allowed to ref high school games. That might be because I still play high school ball. One more year after this.
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Post by brhsoccer14 on Feb 17, 2005 19:15:51 GMT -6
Sorry about the double-post, my computer spazzed out on me... This was originally the same post as the last one above.
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Post by takeitdowntown1 on Feb 17, 2005 19:32:02 GMT -6
I played a game in High School where both coaches got sent off and then the ref called the game. It was a shame. The game was not out of control or anything and to this day I still don't know why the ref called off the game. It started when both coaches got in a heated argument with the ref and then the ref threw them both out and called the game off. Both teams were shocked and quite upset.
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Post by PAUL McCOY on Feb 17, 2005 19:38:16 GMT -6
what happens if a forward gets a breakaway and there is nobody between him and the goalie, but a dog (or fan) runs out and knocks him down outside the 18. would it just be a free kick and the dog (or person) is kicked out of the game. thats what i felt like doing at the capital one bowl. when i saw that guy catch that pass i wanted to jump out of my seat and tackle him before he got to the end zone. i probably couldnt have made it there fast enough but that is besides the point. i just want to know what would happen with the dog incident.
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Post by brhsoccer14 on Feb 17, 2005 20:18:54 GMT -6
Correct me if I am wrong, MOM or other refs on the board, but after looking through the LOTG, I didn't see any special circumstance for this, so it says in Law 8- The Start and Restart of Play under Dropped Ball... "A dropped ball is a way of restarting the match after a temporary stoppage WHICH BECOMES NECESSARY, WHILE THE BALL IS IN PLAY, FOR ANY REASON NOT MENTIONED ELSEWHERE IN THE LAWS OF THE GAME." The capitalized part is what I am talking about. Since it is necessary to stop the match to clear the outside agent, then you would stop the match, clear the outside agent off of the field, and have a dropped ball where you blew the whistle. I think this would probably occur right where the ball was when the player was knocked down by the outsied agent. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by PAUL McCOY on Feb 17, 2005 20:22:28 GMT -6
so the team with the break away wouldnt even get a free kick? thats kinda cheap. i know what im training my dog to do now
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Post by brhsoccer14 on Feb 17, 2005 20:25:24 GMT -6
Yes, it does seem pretty unfair, but you can't assume anything. I might be wrong and the team with the breakaway would get the ball, but I am not sure. Wait for manchurian man or bouree to answer your question so that I don't make a fool of myself.
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Post by PAUL McCOY on Feb 17, 2005 20:56:23 GMT -6
well a one person drop ball is a little more like it.
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Post by brhsoccer14 on Feb 17, 2005 21:17:31 GMT -6
Of course a referee can decide to drop it to one player, but the question was what is the correct restart and simply it is a drop ball, but that is right. In that situation, I would drop the ball to the 'victim'.
I knew there had to be some change in the laws for coaches being carded in high school.
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Post by Crip4Lyf on Feb 17, 2005 21:46:55 GMT -6
Sorry about the double-post, my computer spazzed out on me... This was originally the same post as the last one above. There is a delete post option on all your post ... I see you found the edit button Also thank you guys for clearing up the question on balls blowing up... that one always puzzled me.
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Post by brhsoccer14 on Feb 18, 2005 15:39:38 GMT -6
Whoops, I see it now. On other boards, they don't have the 'delete' option. I will do that now. The boards I am talking about are from invisionfree.
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Post by happyjack on Feb 26, 2006 17:36:18 GMT -6
regarding 12 players on the field...any time this happens, the 12th player must be cautioned. Yes, the referee or his ARs should have caught that there were 12 men before starting, but it is the teams duty to play within the rules. The smart referee asks the captain which player is leaving and will receive the caution. The smarter referee makes sure that the player being cautioned doesn't already have a caution. The smartest referee counts before starting.
regardless, a player is cautioned...it is mandatory.
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Post by defencerules on Feb 27, 2006 15:44:42 GMT -6
I am not a ref, but I have travelled extensively with my son to tournaments all over the country. There are definite differences in the way refs call the game in different parts of the country. In general terms, I have found that in areas of the country with a longer history of soccer, or bigger programs, the refs let a lot more go on in the games.
I have friends who are refs, and when we discuss this issue, they make comments such as "every game should be called the same way" whether it is U8, U15 , or adults. Obviously that doesn't happen.
One of the effects of this is that Louisiana teams travelling to one of the areas where the calls are a lot looser find themselves at a disadvantage, at least early on in a game or tournament. The players hold back to what they are used to getting away with, while the local teams play much more aggressively, knowing the "lay of the land," so to speak. Conversely, after returning from such a trip, I have found the players get called for a lot more fouls, as the local (louisiana) refs, call a tighter game.
I have noticed similar differences in professional games as well; watching an occasional Asian league game on TV, I am amazed at the calls made that would never be made in the EPL or other European leagues.
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