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Post by wmsoccerdad on Mar 6, 2010 22:36:41 GMT -6
DIVISION I GIRLS ALL-STATE 2009-2010 FIRST TEAM Casey Adkins Junior Fontainebleau Callie Allbright Senior Baton Rouge Danielle Beatty Senior St. Scholastica Emily Cancienne Senior Baton Rouge Chelsea Cruthirds Senior Dutchtown Ellen Dean Senior C.E. Byrd Alanna Divittorio Senior Mount Carmel Holly Hambacher Senior Dominican Alexa Herbers Senior Fontainebleau Julia Hunter Sophomore Mandeville Yanci Johnson Senior Natchitoches Central Jessica Merkel Senior Mount Carmel Danielle Murphy Senior St. Thomas More Katelyn “KK” Peters Junior Mandeville Melanie Rabeaux Junior Lafayette Delaney Sheehan Freshman Mandeville Megan Wilder Senior C.E. Byrd SECOND TEAM Leah Aultman Junior St. Joseph’s Alex Bacque Senior Acadiana Jordan Beasley Junior Lafayette Natalie Childress Junior St. Scholastica Emily Cobena Senior Dominican Emily Descant Junior St. Scholastica Lexi Gibbs Senior Dutchtown Brooke Gros Sophomore Mount Carmel Megan McCollum Senior St. Thomas More Lindsay Smith Junior Mandeville PLAYER OF THE YEAR – Danielle Beatty, St. Scholastica COACH OF THE YEAR – Sean Esker, Mandeville
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Post by crackball on Mar 7, 2010 1:29:22 GMT -6
Sad to see that there were no players from West Monroe....several that were MORE than deserving....
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Post by Garrincha! on Mar 7, 2010 4:36:44 GMT -6
Goalie for Dominican (Cobena) was great ! 2nd Team??? Wow!
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Post by wave on Mar 7, 2010 7:44:02 GMT -6
Christina Kiefer of Dominican should have made one of the teams
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Post by sokerfan on Mar 7, 2010 8:52:50 GMT -6
crackball and wave I have to ask, who should be removed then? It was suppose to be the TOP 13 and there is 16 chosen on first team, so there must have been some ties. I don't have the list of every coach that votes but we all know there are many that DON'T vote. Ask your coach if they are voting members and if they aren't ask him/her, WHY NOT? We need to all make a push to get ALL coaches signed up.
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Post by sokerfan on Mar 7, 2010 9:12:12 GMT -6
Coach of the Year, what is the criteria? I ask this every year and haven't got an answer yet. Let me put something out there. There were 3 Candidates.
Sean Esker - Mandeville - Ranked #3, most of season 3rd or 4th, they lose in the Quarterfinals to Mt. Carmel Ranked #6. Beat Hahnville (#14) and Comeaux (19) in the playoffs.
Pavlos Petrou - Mt. Carmel - ranked #6 most of the year, lost in the Finals to SSA. Beat #27 Zachary, #11 Caddo magnet, #3 Mandeville in Quarterfinals and Lafayette (#7) in the Semi's.
Katie Breaux - Lafayette high - ranked #7 going into the playoffs and 8-10 throughout the ranking process. Beat #26 Grace King, #10 Baton Rouge and #2 Dutchtown in the Quarterfinals and lost to MCA in the Semi's.
Now it is all out there, what do you think? According to the COACHES rankings, the better team of the 3 bowed out of the playoff FIRST and the coach was then awarded with the title, "COACH OF THE YEAR".
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Post by sokerfan on Mar 7, 2010 9:27:11 GMT -6
The previous post was to let EVERYONE who reads on this site know that we all make comments about this player should be here and this player should be there, but when it come down to it, the coaches are the ones that make those decisions. Sometimes the girls we are arguing for haven't even been nominated by her own coach. Therefore how could she have even been voted on the All State team. Then if they have been nominated, the coach isn't a member to vote on their own player. We need to MAKE all coaches sign up. It cost very little to become a member, no EXCUSE not to be.
On the same token it is the same for voting on the "Coach of the Year". The same people that vote on the players are the ONLY ones that can vote on the coaches.
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Post by crackball on Mar 7, 2010 10:00:59 GMT -6
sokerfan, I never said any of these girls should be removed , I just said it was sad that West Monroe had no representation....I named NO names (Unlike yourself)....I am proud of all of the one's that made the team. I honestly don't know if our coach votes (that is a question I will have to address), and I realize there are only so many spots available, but I also know that West Monroe didn't just "Waltz" into the third round of the playoffs without some significant skills somewhere on the field....so even if my coach doesn't vote, the other coaches should be honest and not just vote for their players....
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?Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence win championships.?
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Post by soccerwannabe on Mar 7, 2010 11:00:10 GMT -6
So what you're suggesting is since your coach doesn't support your girls (if in fact that's the case) the other coaches should replace players on their team or their district with players for your team or others that lack representation. I strongly believe that the end result should represent the best players in the state, but under the current system your suggestion is completely absurd. The selections get better and better or more accurate each year because of the increased involvement by coaches. When every coach nominates and every coach votes, then and only then will all of the girls be represented. The process works, the participation in the process is where the opportunity lies. If they made the list it was because they got the votes. For the record, I too believe that West Monroe had at least one girl that certainly played well enough for a spot.
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Post by crackball on Mar 7, 2010 12:03:17 GMT -6
soccerwannabe, no my suggestion is not absurd, no matter what the current system is....it shouldn't be about who is on your team no matter what, but about who the best players are, if the coaches are honest they should pick those players....if they were honest about the best players then they would nominate players other than their own....and go check out the all district players....mostly West Monroe girls .....what does that tell you? And like I mentioned before, I don't know if our coach votes or not, but you could never ask for a more supportive Coach and we wouldn't trade him for the world!
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soccerwannabe
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Post by soccerwannabe on Mar 7, 2010 12:37:48 GMT -6
I understand your point and agree to some extent. I just think that to expect the high school coaches to do what you are asking is unrealistic. Some of them are not educated about other girls in the state. In a perfect world (we know it is not) a coach would base his or her nominations and votes on the players that they competed against, players that their fellow coaches competed against, and then do some research to better understand if their were players that they were not aware of that needed to be included. Sounds great but that would take a good bit of work and networking that doesn't always exist. I know of a few coaches that actually do this but it's the exception not the rule. In the absence of a perfect system, this one is good and continues to get better. Unfortunately, West Monroe is as good example as any, their are always a few girls that may be overlooked.
Congratulations to all that were selected you certainly deserved it. For those that may feel slighted, I hope you can use this as an opportunity to work hard and prove others wrong. Never be defined by what others think. Congrats on a good season as well.
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Post by copakid14 on Mar 7, 2010 12:55:20 GMT -6
Let's not forget this is about individual players. You shouldn't have to be on the best team from south Louisiana to have a chance. Look at Yanci from Natchitoches. Very deserving not from a top 10 team.
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Post by crackball on Mar 7, 2010 13:24:50 GMT -6
aliceshoe1, I am not going to argue game winning stats with you as far as consistantcy, because I have always said from my first post on any of the threads, I don't know much...lol....I have always been honest in that respect, but I do know that West Monroe had several deserving girls this year....the coaches obviously felt they had the talent to make all district....like I said....check it out, mostly WM girls....how can that be, and not one on all state, just seems a little strange to me....and we did go further than 2 of the schools that have several players that made it....and before you go off on me , let me mention again that I am NOT saying that any of these players are undeserving....just that I think there are others that are deserving!
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Post by TigerDad on Mar 7, 2010 13:31:44 GMT -6
When I started on this website it was about getting information from other teams and coaches around the state. We could go back and forth with questions about players and make sure everyone had representation. Again this blog has deviated from that info portal and hopefully next year will return to it's beginnings. To make sure your girls are represented: 1. Have as many coaches (should be all) in your area become a member so he/she can vote 2. Also have them go to the meetings so they can talk up their players as well 3. Go to play in the south where the majority of teams/votes are - this is not done just in one season - have to go and play so your younger players are seen as they progress and are remembered the next year - another voter needs to see a player more than once 4. Give complete game recounts during the season - not just "8-1 in cold rain" or "scored 3 goals" -- time of posession, assists, opportunities, minutes, etc - all info helps for those not at the game 5. Players that play premier also are seen all during the year in the different regions of the state - more exposure is a wonderful thing 6. From history - most coaches reward the player in their later years - only the exceptional perfomances get this recognition before their JR or SR year. Example - Kellye Murphy she was nicknamed "the beast" for reason and played like that her entire career. Your younger player has a much better chance of making it late in her career after years of exposure. 7. Grow a repoire with your counterparts in the other areas of the state to discuss players in each other's regions and help each other get the information out on your players and what they mean to their team and this sport!
Positive feedback goes a long way!
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Post by crackball on Mar 7, 2010 14:14:14 GMT -6
soccerwannabe, let me state that when I made my first post, I was not trying to start an argument post, just stating my frustration ( although it seems I have done a good job) with this said, my opinion is still the same and will not change...I understand that this is not a perfect world....I am an adult...but don't think these coaches don't know these girls....I have seen too many posts on here where coaches have made comments about other team's girls (can't recall their names, but they will say " I am a coach" blah blah blah....)
copakid14....you tell 'em...lol!
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Post by footaction on Mar 7, 2010 14:40:11 GMT -6
Congrats to all girls who made all-state. A special congratulations to the head coach of Lafayette High, a truly masterful "coaching job" with only 1 first team and 1 second team all stater?? Maybe Sokerfan is correct. There is some unbalance in this selection process
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Post by offtherecord on Mar 7, 2010 15:00:30 GMT -6
I'm posting on the girls side, even though my daughter graduated two years ago. I'm not sure if the LHSSCA.ORG website is up to date or not, but the number of schools represented on the membership roster appears to be very low. Players have to be nominated to be voted on. Why aren't coaches willing to join the LHSSCA and nominate their players?
And while I'm at it, Alice please stop referring to D-1 teams as "Daddy's" teams. Our club pays D-1 coaches the same as Premier, which is based on their license.
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Post by offtherecord on Mar 7, 2010 16:39:02 GMT -6
And while I'm at it, Alice please stop referring to D-1 teams as "Daddy's" teams. Our club pays D-1 coaches the same as Premier, which is based on their license. Boy, did I hit a nerve... Why did you edit your post? I read the first one too. Yes, players get more exposure playing Premier and there are many benefits. You can talk about the competition level and style of play differences all you want, but making a general reference to D-1 as "Daddy's" team is inaccurate. It does not apply to all teams or clubs. Our club has twelve D-1 teams and eleven Premier teams. All are licensed and paid coaches. All players tryout together at the same time. Players are evaluated and invitations sent for either Premier or D-1. I think many clubs operate this way now.
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Post by sokerfan on Mar 7, 2010 22:30:14 GMT -6
crackball, you stated that West Monroe had several girls deserving of the list. I don't know if 4 is several, but that is how many were nominated for West Monroe. That is more than the STATE CHAMP team had nominated. On 1st team there is ONLY 3 players from the 2 teams that played in the finals. I think there are some who could have made it but as I said before, who should be removed to put another player in? Nobody can answer that question because all on the list deserve to be there. Not that these are the only ones, but they were chosen by the coaches who signed up to vote.
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Post by crackball on Mar 7, 2010 23:30:32 GMT -6
sokerfan, I don't know who was nominated from West Monroe, and really don't want to know....I know who "I" feel are deserving, (Aly Leggit, Mollie Sims, Becca Dupey, Simone Willis, Tori Redding(yes she is my daughter and she is in the final stage of deciding on whether to play at the next level. I will not disclosue the school at this time out of respect for them in that they should hear her decision first) You seem very intent on knowing who I feel should be removed....again, I will not go there....I would never take away from these girls achievement whether I feel they deserve it or not ( that is not what I am about), but like I said before, West Monroe could not have made it as far as they did without some All State talent on the field. If the coaches were truly honest, then at least one of the four you mentioned would have made it...
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