ironcurtain
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"Opportunity seldom knocks twice"
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Post by ironcurtain on Mar 5, 2006 8:54:55 GMT -6
Honestly, it was a well played game. EA didnt give up til that final whistle blew. The goal where "blum dusted me and a defender" yea they scored, but honestly blum really didnt dust anyone. Me and my teammate were right on that guys heels just as he hit the 18 where he began to slow down. I ran 100 yards. Caught up to the kid. O, and by the way we NEVER gave up. NEVER! As for the comment by mrbish... -at one point in time NO ONE thought that a 1-9-3 EA SPARTANS would EVER make it HALF as far as we did. -To make it to the State Finals was something i NEVER dreamed of doing, and just to do that im happy. Yea the win wouldve been nice, but hey, "YOU CAN'T WIN ALL OF THEM!" -Coach van Moer and Coach Ruiz always talked about how we can take it to the distance as long as we believed. Well i think we believed, everyone who was on that field played their hearts out every second of every minute of each half. I gave everything. I could barely stand at the end of the game. We FOUGHT TIL THE WHISTLE, just like we were always taught since we started playing the game of soccer. To win district was history To make it to the Semi's was history but to be a runner-up in state, thats HISTORY MAKING! -I'm proud of you guys, from the freshman to the seniors leaving with me this year. Thanks for a great ride, and if it wasn't for you guys we wouldn't have made it where we made it. Thanks to the Coaches for pushing us to our limits every day at practice. Even though we all hated it, its what got us there. Every one from EA keep your heads high because we didnt make history once this year.....[glow=red,2,300][/glow] WE MADE IT 3, THATS RIGHT 3 TIMES. Thanks again coach....both of you!
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Post by Bish on Mar 5, 2006 9:01:22 GMT -6
Last time I checked being right on somebody's heels is still "getting dusted." As for the comment by mrbish... -at one point in time NO ONE thought that a 1-9-3 EA SPARTANS would EVER make it HALF as far as we did. Ok? I don't know what comment you are referring to nor do I know what your point is. I think it's obvious that nobody expected you to make it that far. Nobody's arguing against that. Props to your team for just "making it there." Sorry to rain on your parade but that's exactly the kind of attitude that will never win a state championship.
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Post by tsumi77 on Mar 5, 2006 9:42:07 GMT -6
Last time I checked being right on somebody's heels is still "getting dusted." ... Sorry to rain on your parade but that's exactly the kind of attitude that will never win a state championship. ... why can't you simply congratulate the kids for their effort and their accomplishment? Nobody says they love to be state runner up, the kids just say that they enjoy the ride this year and were happy they made it this far, that's it... Nobody likes to be second and I can assure you that the Spartans will get back to work (soon...) and aim for the 1st place... One of the 1st thing I tell the players at the begining of the season is their objective #1: the State Championship!! I have no regret regarding this season... just a little sad I could not offer the State Championship to the players, that's it!
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Post by Pitchstalker on Mar 5, 2006 10:41:21 GMT -6
Tsumi and Spartans don't take Bish seriously. Ever since I've been on here all Bish does is look to point out people's shortcomings whether they are there or not. He has gotten better this year over past years, but that's him. Probably some college kid that currently has no "current ties" to soccer other than he played before and enjoys the game. Maybe as he matures he'll grow a little emotionally along with his physical and mental maturity.
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Post by coachray40 on Mar 5, 2006 10:54:22 GMT -6
Okay I was there and I'll weigh in.
Shirt removal is an automatic ejection in USSF rules--enacted this year. We play under National HS Federation rules which normally run a year behind the USSF--hence the yellow only. Had nothing to do with the finals, its just the rules.
Seems like issues from not understanding the RULES are a common theme this year.
As for the game, Vandy was clearly the better team. EA weathered an early storm, and looked to be getting the game back into midfield when Blum cracked off the first goal--magnificent goal hit half volley dipping to the far post upper 90. I really felt like EA could stay in the game if they could have gotten to half at 1-0, but they gave up #2 four minutes before half (just like last year against Vandy). That really sealed the deal, as EA looked lost after that goal. EA then came out flat, gave up 2 goals in the first 6 minutes of the second half, and it was over early. I thought VCHS could have started to empty its bench by then, but they chose to keep starters on--always a hard decision to make as a coach, whether to reward your seniors for their hard work or keep from embarrassing an overmatched team. Gordon Blum impressed me massively tonight. Dude was all over the place, and was able to occupy the EA defense by himself. MVP effort for sure. Was a bit disappointed with Elliot Lewis, thought he could have worked a little harder in midfield--he gradually drifted forward into the attack and didnt help Lapeyre all that much. If EA could have exploited that better, they might have evened the match up--they didnt though, so I guess it didnt matter. Nice goal for Lewis though on the header, but otherwise he wasnt overwhelming. Lapeyre was solid throughout--dude has skills in his poo! Vandy was well organized throughout and deserved the win.
EA certainly looked less potent up top without Lenin Zubia--dont think he would have changed the game other than to make it closer. EA couldnt get the ball deep into the opposite half enough--I think I would have started playing long balls into the corners from the back just to get the Vandy pressure off, but it seemed like EA just couldnt make those touches. EA played hard throughout, they just got beaten by a better team at the top of its game. I saw Vandy play 3 times this year prior to the finals, and I thought they played their best game last night.
As for the finals vs first round knock out--there are only a handful of teams that can regularly "expect" to get to the finals: Jesuit, Lafayette, St Louis, Vandebilt. Notice that 3 of the 4 are private schools. For those teams its easy to discount losing in the finals as underachieveing. For the rest of the teams statewide, its a great accomplishment to just GET to the finals. I'm sure if you ask the Fontainebleau guys, they much preferred to lose last night than they would have wanted to lose to St Amant in the first round. Bish, you enjoyed a great run at St Louis, where you got regular chances at state finals--almost all of the rest of us dont get that option. You are right--settling for second in your case is underachieving, and shouldn't be tolerated. For the rest of us, its a great accomplishment just to get there. We'll all try to get back there, but realistically, its not always possible. Would Teurlings, Carencro, EA, and even possibly Fontainebleau be your favorites to make the finals next year? NO. They wouldnt be mine either. Thats not to say they dont have a chance, its just that the heavy weights will still be the guys everybody picks first. It does matter a bunch to the non heavy weights to get there--now, if a team sits back and gloats over that for years to come, never trying to get better, then that team cheapened the ride that got them there this time. I know EA, and all the teams that got there this year, will do their best to get back. For now, they should enjoy the ride, and then get back to work. Time will tell for everybody. Thats why we play the games.
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Post by chillcrunk on Mar 5, 2006 11:14:58 GMT -6
well said
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Post by Bish on Mar 5, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -6
Agreed. I guess we're just looking at it from two different perpectives. And pitch, I still have ties to soccer. Don't assume so much. If you're ever up for taking a beating in dock soccer, be my guest!
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Post by Pitchstalker on Mar 5, 2006 15:08:13 GMT -6
Bish, Notice I said "Probably". Unlike some people I have no problem being wrong. And to your response...I would have expected no less of a response...which takes me back to my previous point.
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Post by Bish on Mar 5, 2006 15:49:10 GMT -6
An assumption implies probability. Take some of your own advice and don't take me so seriously.
Are you saying I have a problem with being wrong?
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ole5
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Post by ole5 on Mar 5, 2006 15:52:00 GMT -6
Yeah Bish it seems like everytime a public school around here does something they've never done before, if its not St. Louis Lafayette or some other powerhouse they never get any respect. It's easy to build up some wonderful soccer team when you can take any student from out of the state. But when teams like Dutchtown, hardly lose a game all year but got unfortunate and lose to Acadiana in the playoffs, their accomplishments are forgoten, or when St. Amant loses by one goal to a team in the state finals of DI, everything they did is forgotten, or a team like EA with 2 or 3 wins b4 they enter district and go 8-0, and make it to state and beat a team like Ben Franklin who 75% of the people had winning that game and only locals thinking they could win and then they lose in the State Finals, they get no credit for that either. Half the teams in the State Finals were public schools this year. So when will some of these schools start to get a little credit? Anyway id like to congradulate all those teams that made it to the finals whether they won or lost. Only six teams were able to play soccer the last 2 days and they all deserved it.
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Post by ithappens on Mar 5, 2006 16:07:34 GMT -6
Well done VCH...
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Post by Bish on Mar 5, 2006 16:36:11 GMT -6
Yeah Bish it seems like everytime a public school around here does something they've never done before, if its not St. Louis Lafayette or some other powerhouse they never get any respect. It's easy to build up some wonderful soccer team when you can take any student from out of the state. But when teams like Dutchtown, hardly lose a game all year but got unfortunate and lose to Acadiana in the playoffs, their accomplishments are forgoten, or when St. Amant loses by one goal to a team in the state finals of DI, everything they did is forgotten, or a team like EA with 2 or 3 wins b4 they enter district and go 8-0, and make it to state and beat a team like Ben Franklin who 75% of the people had winning that game and only locals thinking they could win and then they lose in the State Finals, they get no credit for that either. Half the teams in the State Finals were public schools this year. So when will some of these schools start to get a little credit? Anyway id like to congradulate all those teams that made it to the finals whether they won or lost. Only six teams were able to play soccer the last 2 days and they all deserved it. I think it's great that EA beat all those teams. I never said anything to suggest otherwise. Just because I don't say "congratulations!" to every team that accomplishes something, doesn't mean I don't give them any credit or think that they suck. EA impressed me this year. I didn't have them getting past the second round. Way to go EA. D-Town had a great season but I predicted them to be upset by Acadiana because of a couple of their questionable losses...and I was right...so what? That doesn't mean that I hate Dutchtown. I thought St. Amant had a solid team this year. I even went to one of their games. I don't know where you get that I'm private school biased. That's definitely not true. We all have our own opinions on who deserves credit. Some schools' accomplishments may seem big to some people, but I may not see it that way. Sorry if you don't like that I don't give your school credit, or antagonize them, but that's just how I am. I can't change that.
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ole5
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Post by ole5 on Mar 5, 2006 16:47:36 GMT -6
I didnt mean that you were private school biased. The whole quote about how you said that you should only settle for a state championship and nothing else is what got me. I agree that you should fight for a state championship every year no matter what because then what else are you playing for? But i dont agree that thats all you settle for. I was saying maybe a school like St. Louis should settle for something like that because of all the facts i presented in the previous post but making it to the state finals for a team like carenco, Fontainebleau, and ea is just as much as an accomplishment as it is for St. Louis to win a state championship, maybe more. Thats all. Same reason i disagree with the Coach ofthe Year should go to whoever wins state. Not trying to downgrade any coach but lets face it. Its much easier to coach a team like Lafayette, Jesuit, and St. Louis to a state championship than it is to coach a team, once again, "Fontainebleau, Carenco, and EA". Thats all. Im not offended that you didnt say CONGRATS to those teams. Just making a point.
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Post by JustSomeRecPlayer8 on Mar 5, 2006 18:50:57 GMT -6
Coach Ray i gotta disagree on the foutainebleu not returning next year to make it to the finals... other than the 60 player power houses that have 14 seniors on the roster... fountainebleu is only loosing 2 starters...
yes i know this is off subject but needed to state my opinion
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Post by megali1 on Mar 6, 2006 2:37:54 GMT -6
I highly disagree with Mr. Bish. Last year the EA girls lost in the first round of the playoffs. This year they made it to the semi's. No comparisons. This year was ten times more rewarding than last year. And once you get that close to being state champs, if you think they weren't devastated you should have seen them on the field. So no, it's not better to lose in the first round than in the championship game. Your latter comments keep saying you're not taking anything away from teams that didn't win state but that's exactly what your earlier comments stated. And as far as, that's just you being you......................no excuse.
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Post by Bish on Mar 6, 2006 8:16:54 GMT -6
I said something about not taking anything away from teams that didn't win state? No excuse? No excuse for what? Being myself? Wow, you got me there.
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Post by MichaelM on Mar 6, 2006 10:30:13 GMT -6
yeahh i definitely figure d Vandy would win this won. Who ever was going to win the semi final game in Division II was going to win state and Vandy beat us so they won sate. Congrats to Vandebilt and goodluck in your next season.
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Post by ole5 on Mar 6, 2006 10:34:19 GMT -6
yeahh i definitely figure d Vandy would win this won. Who ever was going to win the semi final game in Division II was going to win state and Vandy beat us so they won sate. Congrats to Vandebilt and goodluck in your next season. So you think Alexandria could have beat Ben Franklin or EA? I wouldnt go that far, they never played each other.
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Post by tsumi77 on Mar 6, 2006 15:29:41 GMT -6
I wouldn't mind scheduling a game against ASH for next season... I know it would be a good competitive game! IF Interested PM me.
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Post by bluetic on Mar 6, 2006 16:53:06 GMT -6
To EA, you have nothing to hang your heads about, especially the Seniors. You all played your hearts out. You truly left it on the field. You got to the finals because you beat all the competition on your side the bracket. I know our boys were proud to play you. You seniors at EA are leaving a good legacy for your underclassmen to follow. Vandy won because they played their hearts out and their Seniors were playing there last game too. One of our players had a fantastic night and everyone else feed off of it. It was his first full game back after a terrible back sprain suffered against Jesuit back in early January. He did some celebrating, not to rub it in, but just to be playing the game he loves. Keep playing and never give up.
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