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Post by LEObacker on Jan 27, 2006 22:29:07 GMT -6
I agree with the above post. There is no valid reason for one player to have more than 3 goals in one game. Why would a "coach" allow this to happen unless he was padding the stats of that player for what ever reason?
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Post by soccafan13 on Jan 27, 2006 23:58:40 GMT -6
i totally agree w/ that being too many goals. i know that if i have scored more than 2 goals i try to distribute the ball to my fellow teammates more instead of getting all the goals for myself. why do i need to make all those goals when i can just lay it off and give a friend a shot? just my opinion
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Post by hhssoccer on Jan 28, 2006 15:10:36 GMT -6
Before anyone starts commenting on a player's superb abilities, I think they should know what they're talking about first. Were any of you even at these games??
goahsrams.....How do you know that she wasn't, as you so eloquently put it, "took out of the game"? How do you know that the "bench" wasn't played?
LEObacker...According to you, "there is no valid reason for ONE player to have more than 3 goals in one game." So if her team is losing, 4 to 3, then, "OOPS, sorry you already have 3 goals, you'd better not score again".....How absurd is that idea???
Soccafan13....How do you know that she wasn't trying to pass the ball so others could score?
Apparently none of you were at the games, because she did all of this and more.......
dss....thank you for your comments, it's a shame that we have to "dumb down" an outstanding player and/or student so that "others" won't feel bad.
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Post by LEObacker on Jan 29, 2006 13:49:56 GMT -6
I'm sorry I must have missed the scores of the matches where it was a one point victory and one player saved the day with her 4th or more goal of the game.
Thanks for pointing out that getting a double hat trick in a game is the same as a 36 on the ACT or a 1600 on the SAT.
Perhaps the player should hone her passing game to the same sharpness as her shooting.
Padding the your stats is a great way to get noticed for district and state honors.
Respect is better earned by getting a single goal against a strong defense than 5 or more against a weak one.
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Post by goahsrams on Jan 29, 2006 17:59:31 GMT -6
Before anyone starts commenting on a player's superb abilities, I think they should know what they're talking about first. Were any of you even at these games?? goahsrams.....How do you know that she wasn't, as you so eloquently put it, "took out of the game"? How do you know that the "bench" wasn't played? LEObacker...According to you, "there is no valid reason for ONE player to have more than 3 goals in one game." So if her team is losing, 4 to 3, then, "OOPS, sorry you already have 3 goals, you'd better not score again".....How absurd is that idea??? Soccafan13....How do you know that she wasn't trying to pass the ball so others could score? Apparently none of you were at the games, because she did all of this and more....... dss....thank you for your comments, it's a shame that we have to "dumb down" an outstanding player and/or student so that "others" won't feel bad. Well its kind of easy to see, are you talking about something recently?
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Post by AICWildcat on Jan 29, 2006 18:21:16 GMT -6
Okay folks...everyone has an opinion but this thread is about leading scorers, not about the ethics of a single player scoring X amount of goals in a single game.
The end of the regular season is near. Let's catch up on who are the leading scorers in there respective districts and keep the judgment for another discussion.
Let's play nice...
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Post by goahsrams on Jan 29, 2006 19:33:46 GMT -6
Its his decision on what hes going to do. I never met him but teams need more people like him if you ask me.
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Post by sosoplayer24 on Jan 29, 2006 20:07:59 GMT -6
Div. I District 7 Terrebonne High School
Junior Kandice Champagne 34 goals for the season. 22 in district play with 19 assist. (110 carreer goals) Freshman Jessica Herradon 29 goals for the season. 15 in district play with 15 assist. Junior Mindy Fanguy 18 goals for the season. 17 in district play with 9 assist.
These 3 players have accounted for 81 of the teams 138 goals. Fanguy was moved to offense when Alexandra Cantrelle was lost for the season due to a knee injury. Terrebonne has one district game remaining.
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Post by ashfan on Jan 31, 2006 8:12:34 GMT -6
Lindsey Pharris (ASH) 43 goals. Including playing six minutes forty-three seconds of the first half last Thursday night for a "hat trick" and fifteen minutes of the second half at sweeper.
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Post by applesandpears on Jan 31, 2006 10:09:42 GMT -6
Wow!! Do I smell a Golden Boot?
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Post by TigerDad on Jan 31, 2006 13:12:10 GMT -6
Macee Crews at Neville - Sophomore has been on 36 goals and 20 assist for a couple of games as she in injured and will be out the rest of the regular season - was going to 40 easily but Dad happier with her leading assist for the team and district.
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Post by daddyo on Jan 31, 2006 23:38:55 GMT -6
I myself don't like to hear just the number of goals. Tell me who they were against.
4 goals vs Belair doesn't count as much to me as 1 vs Vandebilt/Mt. Carmel/Fontainebleau/etc.
Big numbers sound nice, but some teams don't put any weak opponents in their schedules until the get to district and have to. Other teams spend time "warming" up for district with teams they can pound on.
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Post by LADYRAMDAD on Feb 1, 2006 10:23:14 GMT -6
Acadiana's top scorers are as of 2-1-06 Meaghan Crooks 28 pts Brittany Doyle 33 pts Courtney Hofland 38 pts Jessica Verret 27 pts A well rounded front line
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Post by TigerDad on Feb 1, 2006 11:11:56 GMT -6
I myself don't like to hear just the number of goals. Tell me who they were against. 4 goals vs Belair doesn't count as much to me as 1 vs Vandebilt/Mt. Carmel/Fontainebleau/etc. Big numbers sound nice, but some teams don't put any weak opponents in their schedules until the get to district and have to. Other teams spend time "warming" up for district with teams they can pound on. I do agree. When they score it depends on who picks it up against the good teams and of course those games are much lower scoring. Our problem is fatigue. The way the LHSAA set up the district for us they merged a small on in Shreveport into ours so Neville is part of an 8 team district with only one other team in our parish - the rest in Shreveport. So we are playing 14 district games with many 100 miles away on a school night and getting home after the boys play at 12:00 or later. This also should be factored into the goals thinking.
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Post by offsides on Feb 1, 2006 13:40:03 GMT -6
Wow, LADYRAMDAD, that means AHS has scored 126 goals this year? That is incredible!
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Post by barbedad20 on Feb 1, 2006 14:00:47 GMT -6
I think when ladyramdad says points it is combonation of goals and assists.
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Post by LADYRAMDAD on Feb 1, 2006 14:13:01 GMT -6
that is points not goals. 2 points for goals and 1 point for an assist. this system is used around the world, the NCAA, professionaly, etc, etc. for a player to average a point a game, i.e. 10 goals and 5 assist in 25 games, or 13 goals in 26 games, Kerri Hanks, Notre Dame Fr. 25 games 28 goals 15 assist 71 points 2.84 pts per game Katie Thorlakson, Notre Dame Sr. 25 games 18 goals 35 assist 71 points 2.84 pts per game these two players tied for 3rd in Division I. this year Thats NCAA Division I. These are actual stats , look em up. Who is more valuable? The passer or the scorer. Thats why goals are worth 2 points in this system. The scorer still needs to make the shot, Thus they get more credit than the passer. So if someone has scored 40 goals this year in 25 games , thats 80 points, over 3 a game. i think its a good measuring tool .
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Post by PumasFC on Feb 1, 2006 19:31:16 GMT -6
As a person who spends more time watching goalkeepers I proposed a way to measure there numbers that I think works across the board to measure who is the best in that category, and the same system would work to measure a GOAL SCORER: Divide the number of shots taken into the number of goals scored. You will come up with a scoring precentage. Someone who takes 50 shots and scores 10 goals is just as efficient as the player that has scored 1 goal on 5 shots. thusly if you have a player that plays for a team with a losing record or one that plays for a team that scores 100 goals, you can still tell who the most productive player is. Here is the major flaw to this proposal is: NO ONE KEEPS THOSE KIND OF NUMBERS!! Well I'm sure there are a few stat junkies out there that could tell you how efficent their strikers are, or that defender in the back who takes the free kicks form his/hers team, maybe they would be the ones with the highest precentage of goals to shots. Two point for goal and one for an assist helps recognize the fact that someone is setting up the shooters also. Many times it is a rebound that leads to an easy goal. BUT a goal is a goal, off the someone's posterior or a bicycle still counts one point in the record books.
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Post by imthebackseatcoach on Feb 3, 2006 0:20:46 GMT -6
After reading the last few posts, I thought I would update on our top scorers. Morgan Burlew, a Sophomore, has 27 goals in 19 games with 18 assists for a total of 72 points, 3.78 pts. per game. Julie Jones, a Junior, has 20 goals in 19 games with 10 assists for a total of 50 points, 2.63 pts. per game. Tioga has scored 58 goals and 32 assists in 19 games this season, with 39 of those goals in district. Not bad for a team that only scored 5 goals total in district last year and had not won a district game in 18 years of school program until this year. Five other girls have scored this year and 2 more have assists to round out the offense. We lose only 1 senior, a sub, so the program here should continue to move forward.
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Post by PumasFC on Feb 3, 2006 12:12:21 GMT -6
A big congratulations to Tioga for the turn around this year. This should the be the goal of ever team that doesn't finish at the top of their district to work hard and achieve the kind of success that Tioga has this year. Hope Woodlawn can has a similar resurgence next year.
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