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Post by gator2006 on Jan 17, 2007 16:10:43 GMT -6
You don't score 19 goals on anyone without trying!
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Post by thruball on Jan 17, 2007 23:05:46 GMT -6
I started this post back in December wondering what players and soccer nuts thought about blowouts in this game. It's been happening since day 1 and will continue as long as the game is played. There is always going to be someone on the block better than you. Everyone knows it. There are 31 games posted on this board from this year with double digit wins. Several 14-0, a couple of 15-0 and the all condeming 19-0. There is even a 20-0 on the boys post. I can agree with gator2006 and their very deep well put statement that you don't score 19 goals on anyone without trying. I missed this game but I'm proud for all the young players that scored for their first time and the playing time the JV girls and second team players got and that they were trying. I hope they try again this weekend during the district rematch. They've worked hard this year and it's great that they get to play. Mainly because as eurosweeper has so clearly put it with the playoffs coming up these kids will probably not get much playing time. I'm sure there are coaches and players out there that will agree that there is not a single player on either team that enjoys games like this and would rather they not take place but in district play you don't have the choice and for second and third team players to be put in a game and not try their best is ridiculous. Does all this cry for a "mercy rule"? The question still stands.
P.S. - my opinion only but I think Terrebonne welcomes the challenge from D3. Win or not it's going to be a great game!
Dec 21, 2006, 8:47pm, thruball wrote: Just looking at some of the scores from this year and some of the comments about blowouts and came up with this question. We have one game that was stopped with time on the clock this year with the score sitting at 14 - 0. Should this be allowed in a district contest or should a mercy rule be passed? If so, what would be the guidelines? This is in NO WAY a knock at either of these teams for what went on in this game. I respect these teams and understand that there were reasons unknown to me or others on this board on why the game was stopped.
« Last Edit: Dec 21, 2006, 8:55pm by PutMeInCoach2 » A mercy rule is a touchy topic. While I can see the reasoning behind it, I would rather walk off the field knowing I finished a game and lost 25 to nothing, rather that I had to twalk off because I wasnt even good enough to finish a game.
While a mercy rule will stop the scores from getting out of hand, it is up to the players to make sure the scores doesnt get too disgraceful. The players should be disiplined enough to pass the ball, and takes shots. If it means shanking your shot on purpose than do it. Some coaches will only allow there players to score off corners when the score gets high. Also, I have heard coaches signal to their players to work the ball more than scoring on breakaways. Usually when the score is high, it is the subs that are on the field near the end of the game, and it is a good workout for them to work on their passing, or the reason they arent a starter. They should use that time to practice these skills then.
I think the mercy rule takes away from the sport. However, this is just my opinions, and I respect the others who think the mercy rule would be a good idea. « Last Edit: Dec 21, 2006, 8:55pm by PutMeInCoach2 »
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Post by soccerfest on Jan 17, 2007 23:22:49 GMT -6
From Houma Paper: TERREBONNE 19, THIBODAUX 0 (GIRLS)
Kandice Champagne scored six goals, Ana Contreras, Jessica Herradon, and Brooke Pellegrin each made three and Allie Cantrelle, Scotti Dufresne, Skyla Jackson and Sarah Petrie each added one in Terrebonne’s demolition.
Drusilla Cowan made five saves for Thibodaux (2-14, 0-8).
Terrebonne (12-3-1, 7-0) outshot Thibodaux, 33-0. Are these jv players??? or varsity players???
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Post by thruball on Jan 17, 2007 23:38:03 GMT -6
i see soccerfest is a little touchy since she didn't get to play much last night!
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Post by sosoplayer24 on Jan 18, 2007 7:51:48 GMT -6
From Houma Paper: TERREBONNE 19, THIBODAUX 0 (GIRLS) Kandice Champagne scored six goals, Ana Contreras, Jessica Herradon, and Brooke Pellegrin each made three and Allie Cantrelle, Scotti Dufresne, Skyla Jackson and Sarah Petrie each added one in Terrebonne’s demolition. Drusilla Cowan made five saves for Thibodaux (2-14, 0-8). Terrebonne (12-3-1, 7-0) outshot Thibodaux, 33-0. Are these jv players??? or varsity players??? I'm not going to participate in your little squable with thruball but here is player info: Pellegrin is the starting forward on the JV, Jackson is varsity and scored her first goal. Kisha is JV and not listed in the paper. They were the only 2 that showed from the JV for the game.
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Post by Tigertail on Jan 18, 2007 8:03:16 GMT -6
On a lighter note...
Been noticing Central Lafourche is getting more offensive output of late...
anyone giving them a chance to dethrone the mighty Tigers next week?
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Post by detid513 on Jan 18, 2007 9:29:50 GMT -6
I believe if Central Lafourche stops Terrebonne's offense early, Central will score goals.
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Post by sosoplayer24 on Jan 18, 2007 11:27:12 GMT -6
Anytime these teams play it's a great game. If I remember right the last three years has had at least one game end in a shoot out. Both teams have solid defenses which will always keep you in the game. Terrebonne has the edge in offensive power BUT if Central keeps them out of the goal early detid513 may be right. It's a great game to have at the end of district to get both teams ready for the play-offs.
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Post by Tigertail on Jan 18, 2007 12:30:12 GMT -6
Won't this game be at Tom B.?
Unless Terrebonne has injury issues, I think they put a nice bow on the district season next Friday. If Central couldn't get it done last time, it will be tougher on the road.
Judging by the last matchup, Terrebonne controlled the first half and had a lot of chances on goal. Central really put together a solid second half, but could not get to the goal to really trouble the keeper. Central really didn't attack with any variety, and Terrebonne's back four are one of the best defensive lines in the state. I think if Terrebonne wins the midfield, they come out on top.
Best of luck to both teams in the meantime in district action and in the finale. It's always fun to watch and appreciate two well-coached teams with quality players go at it!
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Post by PutMeInCoach2 on Jan 18, 2007 12:46:53 GMT -6
Won't this game be at Tom B.? Unless Terrebonne has injury issues, I think they put a nice bow on the district season next Friday. If Central couldn't get it done last time, it will be tougher on the road. Judging by the last matchup, Terrebonne controlled the first half and had a lot of chances on goal. Central really put together a solid second half, but could not get to the goal to really trouble the keeper. Central really didn't attack with any variety, and Terrebonne's back four are one of the best defensive lines in the state. I think if Terrebonne wins the midfield, they come out on top. Best of luck to both teams in the meantime in district action and in the finale. It's always fun to watch and appreciate two well-coached teams with quality players go at it! Just to throw this out there. When has the Terrebonne team last been tested as far as defense, and having to penatrate a defense. It was the last Central game. Central is playing Fontainebleau? on Tuesday. They will have the edge as far as playing compitition as on late. Terrebonne's defense is fresh, but havent did anything to warrent communication, and mistakes can happen in this game. My prediction: It will be a great game.
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Post by pompey on Jan 18, 2007 13:38:09 GMT -6
Why is an individual allowed to score 6 goals in a 19 game demolition? Is this a usual practice of the coach?
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Post by capable on Jan 18, 2007 13:43:03 GMT -6
The CL-Terrebonne match was one of the few games I've seen this season. The 3-0 score in favor of Terrebonne seemed just. The first half of play saw Terrebonne control the ball and dictate play much more than CL. Their two goals were decent, but not spectacular. I think they were actually owed more to the CL defense than anything else. One of the goals was on an obvious keeper error. She either came out too late or when you she shouldn't have (take your pick), and left the frame open for the taking. The other goal was on a through ball. But it got through and to the player becuase CL wasn't marking. All night they seemed to be confused about who to mark, and often were out of position because of it. I don't really remember the goal in the second half, but I think it was of higher quality than the others. But CL played better in the second half. They played with a greater sense of urgency and composure, and were more aggressive. I don't believe they have the ball skills of Terrebonne, so this is how they'll have to play the entire game this go round. If CL cuts down on the mistakes it'll be a game. If not, 2 or 3-0 for Terrebonne.
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Post by PutMeInCoach2 on Jan 18, 2007 17:17:30 GMT -6
Central is playing Fontainebleau? on Tuesday. Wow, you really butchered the word that time...lol ... BTW, it's Fontainebleau. It is my shorthand way of writing that big word Fontainebleau
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Post by sosoplayer24 on Jan 18, 2007 20:57:32 GMT -6
Why is an individual allowed to score 6 goals in a 19 game demolition? Is this a usual practice of the coach? Again this is no defense of the final score but the mentioned player took six shots on the night and passed up another 10 or 12. How many times does a player go 6 for 6?
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Post by teamwork on Jan 18, 2007 21:22:06 GMT -6
19-0 is shameless it is not unusual for that player to score several goals on weaker teams. it's all about padding stats. a coach can definitely control the amount of goals scored. i spoke with a couple of terrebonne parents who are very upset, according to their stories sosoplayer24 is inaccurate in his 6-6 comment i have seen player play several times and myself doubt this is possible.
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Post by pompey on Jan 18, 2007 22:12:42 GMT -6
I am very glad the parents are upset. Good on them, they obviously see the big picture. I hear all the comments about this and that. heck we recently won a game 12-0, so when is it Ok to cut off?? I do not know, but i do know that not one girl in the 12 goal win got more than three goals. One girl got three, a few got two and JV crew defenders pretty much got the rest.
6 goals from one player?
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Post by oneforall on Jan 18, 2007 22:15:40 GMT -6
19-0 is shameless it is not unusual for that player to score several goals on weaker teams. it's all about padding stats. a coach can definitely control the amount of goals scored. i spoke with a couple of terrebonne parents who are very upset, according to their stories sosoplayer24 is inaccurate in his 6-6 comment i have seen player play several times and myself doubt this is possible. Why is it such a big deal that one person scores 6 goals in one game, when I'm sure there have been players on the THS team who have scored over 3 goals per game? Would everyone be happier if the score was 13 - 0, instead of 19 - 0?
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Post by pompey on Jan 18, 2007 23:03:12 GMT -6
19-0 is shameless it is not unusual for that player to score several goals on weaker teams. it's all about padding stats. a coach can definitely control the amount of goals scored. i spoke with a couple of terrebonne parents who are very upset, according to their stories sosoplayer24 is inaccurate in his 6-6 comment i have seen player play several times and myself doubt this is possible. Why is it such a big deal that one person scores 6 goals in one game, when I'm sure there have been players on the THS team who have scored over 3 goals per game? Would everyone be happier if the score was 13 - 0, instead of 19 - 0? Ask winning teams parents........
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Post by PutMeInCoach2 on Jan 18, 2007 23:19:24 GMT -6
19-0 is shameless it is not unusual for that player to score several goals on weaker teams. it's all about padding stats. a coach can definitely control the amount of goals scored. i spoke with a couple of terrebonne parents who are very upset, according to their stories sosoplayer24 is inaccurate in his 6-6 comment i have seen player play several times and myself doubt this is possible. Why is it such a big deal that one person scores 6 goals in one game, when I'm sure there have been players on the THS team who have scored over 3 goals per game? Would everyone be happier if the score was 13 - 0, instead of 19 - 0? Technically there is no difference in a 13-0 win than a 19-0 win. However the other way shows a little bit more mercy. I think 6 goals is way to much. When I played, the players were swapped from defense to offence and visa versa. However, once you got that goal under your belt, you were yanked. No matter who you were. However, the one starter did have 5 goals in that game. Those 5 were the first 5 scored in the game, and he did not cross midfield after that. I have seen coaches impliment certain rules to players before they can shoot. I.E. only on crosses, only on a volley, only on a header. If the score is still going. Only at the right post, this works on a person placement. Even if there are 5 defenders there and the other side is wide open. Or even cutting down the halves. Coaches can be creative. I am no way cutting down the coaching staff at Terrebonne as I do have a lot of respect for them. I have watched them play a number of games and showed class when doing so. I personally feel a 19-0 victory is too much, but I don't hold it just on the coaches. I hold it on the players as well. The players must know when it is enough.
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Post by sosoplayer24 on Jan 18, 2007 23:53:50 GMT -6
19-0 is shameless it is not unusual for that player to score several goals on weaker teams. it's all about padding stats. a coach can definitely control the amount of goals scored. i spoke with a couple of terrebonne parents who are very upset, according to their stories sosoplayer24 is inaccurate in his 6-6 comment i have seen player play several times and myself doubt this is possible. The stats are given to me after the game and they are correct about the six goals. There is no need for me to embelish the stats for a player. If the player was concerned about padding stats she could have kept going.
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