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Post by reddevil on Jan 19, 2007 12:06:46 GMT -6
I understand the concern on scoring too many goals but if a team can't stand the heat, get out of the soccer field. You either field a team and play or you don't. If you do, it's not fair for the other team and their coach to start putting limits on how they can score because someone just doesn't belong there.
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Post by stickone on Jan 19, 2007 13:46:47 GMT -6
Well said fhssoccerfan! It is not like Terrebonne is the only team beating other teams in the double digits! Scores like these or posted all over this site. It is a shame that Terrebonne's district is not more competitive. But, having said that, it isn't right that their starters should have to sit most of their district games to keep the score close. They have to prepare as best they can against what they have to go up against. This is part of the reason Terrebonne doesn't advance any further in the playoffs then they have in the past. They do not have the luxury of competing with playoff caliper teams in their district.
It is also a shame to see people that don't know these girls attacking them for this score. The score of that game could have probably been 40-0 very easily!
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Post by eurosweeper on Jan 19, 2007 14:22:27 GMT -6
Well said fhssoccerfan! It is not like Terrebonne is the only team beating other teams in the double digits! Scores like these or posted all over this site. It is a shame that Terrebonne's district is not more competitive. But, having said that, it isn't right that their starters should have to sit most of their district games to keep the score close. They have to prepare as best they can against what they have to go up against. This is part of the reason Terrebonne doesn't advance any further in the playoffs then they have in the past. They do not have the luxury of competing with playoff caliper teams in their district. It is also a shame to see people that don't know these girls attacking them for this score. The score of that game could have probably been 40-0 very easily! If I understand the logic it appears that Terrebonne's in a weak district and that's why they can't compete in the playoffs. This wouldn't be faulty logic if other teams in Louisiana who are in weak districts do not do well in the playoffs. Maybe to get the skills necessary the starters could be required to execute a set number of one touch passes BEFORE the ball can enter the box? Then you have to have a set number of one touch passes in the box before a shot can be taken? Then that shot must be a weak footed (left or right) shot or a header? How about splitting the field in sections and having two touches per section prior to making an attack into the box? How about if a ball hits the ground then you must start an attack all over? Come on...it doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to get your starting eleven the skills necessary to go deep in the playoffs while not humiliating another team. But hey...if the coach feels he/she has to post 19 goals on a weak team to get his/her team ready for the playoffs then I can't quarrel with that. It's not an attack on the girls. I just think you need to look at running a possession game with required touchs executed BEFORE you take shots once you're up 4 or more to nothing. That builds skill, character and more importantly, sportsmanship. Better yet...go outside your district....like to N.O. or Lafayette to get some better competition? Thrashing teams on a regular basis does nothing for building programs within the district. Don't we all want this sport to grow? Just my opinion!
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Post by teamwork on Jan 19, 2007 17:22:41 GMT -6
well i see that my first ever entry has sparked much debate, debate is good. For the record i think the THS girls soccer team is a great group of young ladies who aslo play very good soccer. that said, there is still no excuse for the 19-0 score, although i agree that it seems unfair to the better team to ask them to hold back against weaker teams there are more things in life to learn than just soccer. I also agree that its not THSs fault they are in a weaker district but that is the makeup of nearly every district throughtout the state. One strong team and a few really bad teams, the really good teams are successful in the playoffs not because they beat the heck out of the weaker teams but because of their tuff pre distrcit games and the ability of their coaches to prepare them for the playoffs.
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Post by pompey on Jan 19, 2007 18:06:02 GMT -6
How many of the 19 goals were scored by varsity starters???
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Post by defendermom on Jan 19, 2007 21:42:56 GMT -6
at least 15
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Post by stickone on Jan 19, 2007 21:56:05 GMT -6
19-0 is shameless it is not unusual for that player to score several goals on weaker teams. it's all about padding stats. a coach can definitely control the amount of goals scored. i spoke with a couple of terrebonne parents who are very upset, according to their stories sosoplayer24 is inaccurate in his 6-6 comment i have seen player play several times and myself doubt this is possible. teamwork you sure sound a lot like soccerfest!! Seems to me soccerfest just decided to change names!! I sense you have more of a problem with the player that scored the 6 goals then the 19-0 score. And for the record the stats are right! This same player you accuse of padding stats is also one of the top assist players on the team. So if it was about padding stats I would think this player would just take more shots then give the ball up as much as she does. I really do think this one game has sure been blown out of proportion. It is over why doesn't everyone just move on. Because the funny thing about this it is bothering everyone but the team that loss the game. Go figure!
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Post by thibmom on Jan 19, 2007 22:13:05 GMT -6
yes, Terrebonne is a pretty good team, and when our girls played them tues night, they knew that they didn't have a chance. We all knew that. But come on the coach could have played his bench. And we know he didn't. We all know the girl who scored the 6 goals, she is considered their best player(starter). Now the Terre. coach did sub alot. But, not that player, she played the entire game, and only came out for a few minutes, soooo. For shame on the coach, makes him look bad, and the girl could have passed off more balls, if she wasn't trying to pad her record, with the coaches help of course. They still had alot of their players that didn't play that much. But anyway c'est la vie. Good luck to ya tigers in the playoffs.
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Post by stickone on Jan 19, 2007 22:32:07 GMT -6
WOW! Now that is a coincidence that a THIBMOM would just be waiting to make her first post on this site after me saying that they were the only ones not complaining! Well THIBMOM you are going to have to do better then this. I am willing to bet there is not a Thibodaux parent that knows this site exists!! Sounds to me like you and others think that just because this player is Terrebonne's all time leading scorer that she should just stop scoring and pass the ball off every time she touches it. It sure seems funny when this player was sitting out for a few games with an injury nobody said anything for Terrebonne beating south lafourche 11-0.
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Post by thibmom on Jan 19, 2007 22:39:47 GMT -6
yes, i know it must be hard for you to believe that we also have computers here in thib., and we also have the right to post our own version of this discussion sweetie. You Terre. people are not the only ones who keep up on soccer. And the truth is the truth. As for the other game, I wasn't there. You need to ask that question to all the other who posted their comments about this.
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Post by soccerfest on Jan 19, 2007 22:44:35 GMT -6
All time leading scorer wow!! Not that hard to do against thib huh?
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Post by thibmom on Jan 19, 2007 22:46:57 GMT -6
[And because of your comment about it not bothering us, "thib. parents" is the only reason i have to even registar in this sight. Everyone else had their opinion. I have the right to voice our side of the story. And your right, its over. But, the truth is still the truth. So have a nice night....quote author=stickone board=Girls thread=1162355225 post=1169267527]WOW! Now that is a coincidence that a THIBMOM would just be waiting to make her first post on this site after me saying that they were the only ones not complaining! Well THIBMOM you are going to have to do better then this. I am willing to bet there is not a Thibodaux parent that knows this site exists!! Sounds to me like you and others think that just because this player is Terrebonne's all time leading scorer that she should just stop scoring and pass the ball off every time she touches it. It sure seems funny when this player was sitting out for a few games with an injury nobody said anything for Terrebonne beating south lafourche 11-0. [/quote]
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Post by sosoplayer24 on Jan 19, 2007 22:52:08 GMT -6
Terrebonne 5 South Terrebonne 0
Very well played game by both teams. South Terrebonne came to play and the crowd enjoyed watching the 2 teams play hard. Terrebonne controlled most of the game but South Terrebonne did have their runs. It was a cold night on a sloppy field with water flying and nice muddy uniforms. It was a lot more fun to watch than play I'm sure. Players on both sides were wet and shivering by games end. Good job girls.
Terrebonne also won the boys game 5-3 in the second overtime. Game was 3-3 at the end of regulation.
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Post by thibmom on Jan 19, 2007 22:56:55 GMT -6
Oh, and guess what sweetie, since i have finally registered for the first time (movin up in the world!) i just might even read the other sights about other teams, ya know, since this is the first time us thib. people have ever seen this sight before. ?
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Post by stickone on Jan 19, 2007 22:58:27 GMT -6
yes, i know it must be hard for you to believe that we also have computers here in thib., and we also have the right to post our own version of this discussion sweetie. You Terre. people are not the only ones who keep up on soccer. And the truth is the truth. As for the other game, I wasn't there. You need to ask that question to all the other who posted their comments about this. Still not good enough for me THIBMOM.....I know there are computers in Thibodaux its just that you are not on one of those!If you were a concerned THIBMOM you would have been one of the first to voice your opinion on this site right after the game. Why wait 3 days to come out of your shell?
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Post by thibmom on Jan 19, 2007 23:14:09 GMT -6
because for the last three days, sweetie, thats all You Terre. people have been talking about, and making excusses about. Really don't much care what you think. And it really has nothing to do with "waiting" so long to post. Our team has lost all of our games, other teams beat us to. But their teams don't have the luxury of playing their weaker players, Terre. does. So thats the facts. Like I said, if you guys wouldn't be making such a big deal about, it maybe i would have never posted. So get over yourself. And like I said, the truth is the truth.
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Post by stickone on Jan 19, 2007 23:53:48 GMT -6
because for the last three days, sweetie, thats all You Terre. people have been talking about, and making excusses about. Really don't much care what you think. And it really has nothing to do with "waiting" so long to post. Our team has lost all of our games, other teams beat us to. But their teams don't have the luxury of playing their weaker players, Terre. does. So thats the facts. Like I said, if you guys wouldn't be making such a big deal about, it maybe i would have never posted. So get over yourself. And like I said, the truth is the truth. Still not buying it "THIBMOM"!! And here is why.........Thibodaux was beat by Cent.Laf. on 12/19 by a score of 14-0 and if I remember correctly the game was even stopped before time was up!! But did we hear anything from THIBMOM then oooohhh nooooo!! I am sure Cent. Laf. had some weaker players to sub, right! Now that is the TRUTH! So THIBMOM why don't you be honest with yourself, just go ahead and admit that the issue with you is one player and not a team, not a coach or a score!! See you tomorrow at the game!!
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Post by stickone on Jan 20, 2007 0:09:39 GMT -6
Central Lafourche 14 - Thibodaux High 0, Game was called with 17 minutes left in game. Here it is everyone! Where was the outrage for this game, seems like a pretty good whipping to me.......they even had to stop the game! Guess you missed this one THIBMOM!!
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Post by stickone on Jan 20, 2007 0:13:09 GMT -6
Central Lafourche 12 - Ellender 0 And still another!! Since Central Lafourche did not get a bashing over these games, how about we call off the dawgs against Terrebonne. Enough is enough!!!!
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Post by Tigertail on Jan 20, 2007 6:13:16 GMT -6
These scores are going to happen in LA H.S. soccer, everyone needs to face it. They have in the past, they have this season, they will happen in the future.
The only issue I take up with this game is that JV players were "encouraged" to attend and "only 2" showed. That is a coaching issue, they should have been required to attend. Thibodaux has had a weak team in recent years, Terrebonne's staff had to know this. Their JV players would have benefited from varsity experience. That's a coaching issue, not an excuse.
Ultimately, we are dealing with teenagers here, that's why people get so upset. They are concerned about what is happening on the emotional/morale side for the losing team. That's fair.
From what one post said the Thibodaux players preferred when Terrebonne attacked rather than play for possession/touch. Good for those Thibodaux players, they wanted to see how they fared against Terrebonne's best.
Coaches are supposed to be the source for sportsmanship and class with their teams. Does this always happen, no. Did Terrebonne show no class/sportsmanship in this case? Who knows except that Coach. This question is too subjective to evaluate. If Terrebonne's players and coaches walked off the field feeling validated with their effort, then there is your answer. If Thibodaux's players walked off knowing they gave their best effort and their best effort was 0-19, then they have to accept that.
It was also nice to hear Terrebonne supporters on this thread express remorse and some degree of disdain for the score. That shows class in the Terrebonne soccer family.
Time to put this baby to bed, though. The game is done, the score cannot be changed, and if anything good comes from this then that means something should have been learned by both teams in this whole thing.
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