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Post by soccerrouge on Dec 11, 2007 22:56:36 GMT -6
Very nice prediction pompey............ you are now my idle
12/11
Dutchtown 3 Baton Rouge High 1
Best wishes to Emily Cancienne (BRHS), we hope you are OK. Emily was injured in a collision in the first half, and with her previous issues, she was carried out via ambulance to get her checked out.
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Post by pompey on Dec 12, 2007 7:09:32 GMT -6
Thank you,thank you very much.
Any more word on the poor girl? Keep us posted. sad to hear.
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Post by pompey on Dec 12, 2007 7:09:57 GMT -6
STA 5 St Mike's 0
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Post by pompey on Dec 12, 2007 22:29:36 GMT -6
EA 3 Cath PC 3
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Post by Tigertail on Dec 13, 2007 7:26:25 GMT -6
St. Charles Catholic @ Hahnville not played Dec. 12 due to lack of officials.
Will not be rescheduled.
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Post by Tigertail on Dec 14, 2007 21:08:21 GMT -6
Dec. 14 @ Hahnville
Dutchtown 2 Hahnville 0
Score 0-0 at half
Hahnville 6-6-3 overall, 0-1 district
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Post by pompey on Dec 14, 2007 21:52:23 GMT -6
EA 10 East St John 1
STA 5 Destrehan 3
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Post by stuckonsideline on Dec 14, 2007 23:37:13 GMT -6
I said I was done but I will another post. Another hard to understand approach to the game in the Hahnville/Dutchtown game as a league opener. Dutchtown chooses to bench 3 of their top 4 players for the entire first half, including the sweeper and the team's two leading scorers. In spite of hard work by Dutchtown, the result well into the second half is numerous shots by Hahnville, some shots but no goals for Dutchtown. The two leading scorers are finally put in together, and soon after that the sweeper drippbles past half the Hahnville team, passes to one forward, who crosses to the other who heads it in. A goal in minutes once that group is together on the field. One of the two benched players also scores in the final minute. The coaching staff obviously wanted to make some kind of point, but no one in the stands could figure out what it was.
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Post by pompey on Dec 15, 2007 7:35:27 GMT -6
I said I was done but I will another post. Another hard to understand approach to the game in the Hahnville/Dutchtown game as a league opener. Dutchtown chooses to bench 3 of their top 4 players for the entire first half, including the sweeper and the team's two leading scorers. In spite of hard work by Dutchtown, the result well into the second half is numerous shots by Hahnville, some shots but no goals for Dutchtown. The two leading scorers are finally put in together, and soon after that the sweeper drippbles past half the Hahnville team, passes to one forward, who crosses to the other who heads it in. A goal in minutes once that group is together on the field. One of the two benched players also scores in the final minute. The coaching staff obviously wanted to make some kind of point, but no one in the stands could figure out what it was. Hmm, I'll take a stab here. This is high school soccer. When the W is the single most important factor -we have lost sight of what we are supposed to be doing coaching-wise. I love Jason Oertling's quote i once read. He is the head boys soccer coach (and AD) at St Louis. They have won numerous State titles and was asked if he recruited soccer players. I can only parahrase, but went like this. "Nope, we find athletes, hope some have soccer backgrounds and our primary focus is to make these men excellent future husbands and fathers." Wow, novel concept he is instilling life lessons!! So, back to the benching of star players. Maybe the reason was for disciplinary action. Maybe for lack of effort in practice, maybe for a ruffling of feathers, maybe they have done nothing wrong, maybe to put pressure on other non star players in game situations. Maybe it was felt the way to go for that particular game. I do not want to know the reason. Again, are we focusing on the hard W here? Three weeks back, we are playing in Gulfport. Second game, super player does not have her uniform shorts. She does not play one second of that game. Look up the definition for "uniform." She is a star player for sure, but team rules/expectations/chemistry/discipline far outweigh the need to play her for the W. Monday morning QB- we tie the game 1-1, she would have likely helped a huge amount, hmm, maybe the 2-1 win, but i am pleased that she will likely never forget her uniform again:) Last night, St Amant captain - whom i love dearly forgot her uniform. Does not play. Why? because the W is not the single most defining issue here, it is about chemistry and responsibility. I may be rambling here. Congrats to DTHS for the nice win, big congrats too to Hahnville for a highly spirited performance by all accounts, impressive stuff.
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Post by pompey on Dec 15, 2007 16:07:34 GMT -6
We are at another school other than D-town . From what I heard you're coach at least talked to player and a parent about reason . Our coach will do neither so we are in stands are on bench wondering why. So you are in a little better situation than us .Just over 2 months left . Hang in there . Tough stuff, if really that bad, child should likely quit if counting down the months. Minutes might be linked to practice or game effort, who knows?? As for coaches speaking to parents - not so sure that is needed in the slightest. Communication with athlete is important, unless done it over and over about the same subject. God luck and keep cheering them on, retired coach
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Post by ronaldo11 on Dec 15, 2007 16:23:42 GMT -6
Pompey hit the nail on the head with reference to Jason's comments. Winning is definitely not the most important thing in high school soccer. The development of kids to work in a team environment is absolutely crucial for future life situations.
On a more personal note, I cannot understand why on earth there is criticism, especially in the public domain, for someone who is dedicating their time to help develop local kids. The coach wants the players to buy into a team ethic, and grow together as the season progresses in order to create a family atmosphere. Surely parents should be able to see this, admire how much time someone is spending to harness the potential of these young individuals, and let their children live and learn in such a congenial climate.
Furthermore I find it deeply distressing that the lack of respect should be so apparent. For people with less pronounced credentials to question someone who has worked wonders at two of the three major high schools in the area, guiding the pair to plenty of district championships victories, and longevity in state championships, simply astonishes me.
Kids go to school to learn. Its perfectly fine for parents in the stands to not understand some decisions from any coach; in just the same way that a parent not understand the methods used to teach calculus by a maths teacher. However, as long as the child is learning, parents are fine because they believe in the school to be an educative institution. Sometimes it is forgotten that these are not soccer stars getting paid beckham type salaries. These are kids simply trying to enjoy being taught. But also, it should be noted that high school coach positions arent filled by world class coaches on huge salaries, but just ordinary, everyday people simply trying to enjoy teaching, as it is rewarding.
Last but not least, all the criticism aimed towards this particular coach here, does not even come close to the appreciation and fondess shown by past players who have played under his guidance and progressed by buying into the team ethic. I feel that its about time some parents followed in same vein.
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Post by retiredcoach on Dec 15, 2007 16:37:07 GMT -6
I think we as parents sometimes think our kids do no wrong and that is probably not the case we may also think they are better than they are. But that is a parents job. All high school coaches should be commended a lot of work for very little or sometimes no pay.
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Post by mark18 on Dec 15, 2007 17:05:04 GMT -6
While this started a few posts ago concerning a team in District 6 maybe a new thread should be started since these Coach/Player/Parent issues surely stretch across all Divisions and Districts.
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Post by pompey on Dec 15, 2007 18:03:51 GMT -6
I think we as parents sometimes think our kids do no wrong and that is probably not the case we may also think they are better than they are. But that is a parents job. All high school coaches should be commended a lot of work for very little or sometimes no pay. I think it is a job of a parent to view their little angel as just that.....an angel. THANK YOU for obviously attending your daughters extracurricular activities, some parents are strictly no-shows and that is a crying shame.
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Post by jerseyboy on Dec 15, 2007 18:38:53 GMT -6
Why do we all assume they were being punished? Maybe they were hurt and the coach only played them in the second half because they were needed! Maybe the other 3 three girls deserve to play, who doesn't watch the LSU football team play and wonder why a running back is not playing. Second guessing a coach is what the parents get to do for their admission price. Let's just second guess the coaching decisions and the outcome of those decisions and leave it at that. Just because they are the top players do not mean they get a free pass to play every minute.
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Post by soccerrouge on Dec 15, 2007 21:08:14 GMT -6
In this evolving world one word hits home for me:
R ealizing E veryone's (players, peers, teachers, coaches, adults in general) S hortcomings, & P roblems, & E stablishing C ommon (similar to how you would want to be treated) T reatment
When I was growing up, it was demanded of me, now its rarely seen.
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Post by skilletbone on Dec 16, 2007 0:43:40 GMT -6
If discipline or lack of respect is the problem, I can relate. Having similar problems with the program that Im involved in. I am amazed at how 14-17 year old girls/ boys treat teachers, coaches,or any other authoritative figure these days. If a coach or a teacher came to my father and told them that they were having problems w/ me, that would have been the first and last time, because it would have been dealt w/ at home before any teacher or coach needed to at school or on the field. That single hint of fear from parents and lack of respect for elders is whats lacking these days.
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Post by Tigertail on Dec 16, 2007 8:59:19 GMT -6
Agreed, the lack of respect for what educators/coaches attempt to do has declined exponentially in the last 10 years. Typically one is a product of one's environment.
I was refreshed after losing to Dutchtown the other night when one of the D-Town girl's boasted about her assist with the same excitement as if she had scored herself. Unselfishness is a dying commodity among teenagers today.
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Post by justadad on Dec 17, 2007 13:12:08 GMT -6
Regarding the Dutchtown/Hahnville game: I too was curious about the decision on who started and who didn't. I didn't question it. Knowing the coach as long as I have I knew he must have had a reason. I say let the coaches coach. As a parent I would have been a lot more concerned if my daughter had responded as one did. To have the privilege to play and represent your school and then step on the field and literally stand there with your arms crossed for 75% of the time needed to be addressed. If my daughter had done that I would have been on that field myself and pulled her off. When there are 10+ girls sitting on the bench wanting to play and one on the field acting like that, the coaches gave her a lot more leeway than I would have. So, instead of questioning the coaches, us parents should focus on leading by example and supporting decisions by the coaches, whether or not we agree. That is our responsibility.
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Post by ianstjohn on Dec 20, 2007 18:20:59 GMT -6
hophully my eaststjohn players can taked advantge of dutchtown when we play. i wanna see what the dutchtown coachs does
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