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Post by div1coach222 on Feb 13, 2012 9:50:42 GMT -6
SJA- all valid points, but speaking of the Mandeville Soccer Club Area small in comparison to Baton Rouge population. Also a few athletes from this club also go to Mt. Carmel and maybe Dominican. Now you have Northlake Christian and Hannan making a push for the same club athletes. I do not know why , but from a Club level D1 and Premier Baton Rouge has lagged behind Mandeville and Lafayette Clubs... Personally I cannot explain that, but the results seem to indicate this...The Chicago Fire club in Kenner is now making a push with it Comp.1 club...I cannot explain why Baton Rouge Club teams do not do well in Club State Tournament and tournaments in general. These clubs are your farm system and for whatever the reason is thay are lacking... For the parents coming up that maybe an area(club ball) that they may want to strengthen up...
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Post by Wofford Dad f/k/a SJA Dad on Feb 13, 2012 10:11:54 GMT -6
Cannot argue with any points there.
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Post by freekick on Feb 13, 2012 12:23:56 GMT -6
It appears that the BR HS soccer struggles mirror club stuggles. The last dominant girl's club team I remember from BR was the 92G, and they seemed to feed BR High and SJA when they both were contenders several years ago.
BRSC currently has no U18G girls team, their U17G team has struggled for years to be competitive, the U16G team is now a merger team, and is there even a U15G team this year? For some reason, there simply does not seem to be the number of girls club players in BR. Have never been able to understand why since it is now the largest metro area in the state. Comparatively, there seem to be less upper level players versus NO/Northshore/Lafayette, plus they are spread out amongst more schools.
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Post by barnacle13 on Feb 13, 2012 13:12:12 GMT -6
There's defiunitely something to this. Many of the girls teams in BRSA continued to stay recreational until this past season. Not knocking the volunteer coaches, but the lack of professional coaches devloping some of these players has hurt area high schools. With the focus last season shifting to competitive leagues, three of the rec teams made the move to the competitive league, combiniing into 2 competitive teams. That and the defection of some players to the new Capital City FC have taken a toll. Another factor I believe is continuity of coaching. You see with many of the private schools a continuity from their middle school feeders to the high school level. High School coaches work with the middle school coaches to develop the overal program. There is very little continuity between BR area high schools and the clubs and middle school programs. My guess would be the areas of the state that are putting up championship squads year in and year out are much more connected between club and high school coaching philosophies. I think BRSC's leap to competitive league teams and now the Developmental Academy is their answer to some of these issues. We'll see if it's the right answer in time I suppose. The continuity between programs has to get better for area high schools to consisttantly make deep runs into the playoffs. I think Dutchtown, St.Amant, and EA are more likely to compete in the near term, as they seem a little more tied in to their GSC club.
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Post by offsides on Feb 13, 2012 13:48:39 GMT -6
It appears that the BR HS soccer struggles mirror club stuggles. The last dominant girl's club team I remember from BR was the 92G, and they seemed to feed BR High and SJA when they both were contenders several years ago. BRSC currently has no U18G girls team, their U17G team has struggled for years to be competitive, the U16G team is now a merger team, and is there even a U15G team this year? For some reason, there simply does not seem to be the number of girls club players in BR. Have never been able to understand why since it is now the largest metro area in the state. Comparatively, there seem to be less upper level players versus NO/Northshore/Lafayette, plus they are spread out amongst more schools. Lafayette has the same struggles. CSC does not have a girls U18 competitive level 1 team, pulled up some U16, combined with U17 to form a U17. I believe CSC also has a U17 team in the lower competitive level. There is also a combo U16 team w/BRSC. LFC has a U18 girls competitive level 1 team. Dynamos have a U16 competitive level 1 team and this year formed a U18 girls team (not sure what level). Consolidate the clubs and the teams would be more competitive, have better training and be more beneficial for the players. As I remember, in the past, CSC and LHS had the same starting line up most of the time. LHS has several academies, Health, dance, music, etc.. The team should be able to "pull" players from all over Lafayette Parish.
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Post by sokerfan on Feb 13, 2012 21:17:02 GMT -6
offsides, Lafayette should be able to pull from all over the parish but they don't. The players that go to Laf are zoned to go there with the exception of only a couple.
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Post by offsides on Feb 14, 2012 9:26:13 GMT -6
offsides, Lafayette should be able to pull from all over the parish but they don't. The players that go to Laf are zoned to go there with the exception of only a couple. ;D.....Carencro coach may be able to name more than "a couple".
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Post by sokerfan on Feb 14, 2012 20:59:37 GMT -6
offsides, I am not sure what the smiley face is or how to put it there but send me a personal message and enlighten me. Cause I don't know of "a couple", I just know on 1 from the Carencro area.
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Post by offsides on Feb 14, 2012 22:02:27 GMT -6
I stand corrected, sokerfan, I confused Northside with Carencro. It would be Northside, Comeaux and Carencro. Several of the LHS players are "out of zone" and attend LHS as a "school of choice".
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Post by hjoensy on Feb 15, 2012 7:24:57 GMT -6
Private schools definitely have an advantage when it comes to continuity of coaching and programs. They're able to feed their high school program with the philosophy and style at grades 8 and below. Public schools aren't allowed to let their jr high programs practice of play with the high school programs because they don't have the same principal. In the Mandeville area for example, teams like SSA, NCS and Hannan can let their HS school coach structure and instruct during practices and games. Public schools like MHS and FHS can not.
I don't see this as a huge advantage, but I'm curious why the distinction. I'm sure like most other LHSSA rules, somebody abused it in Football and now everyone suffers.
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