Week 5: LaPrep Official Top 10

[PutMeInCoach2]

December 17, 2006

LAHSsoccer.com 2006 Week 4 Boys High School Soccer Rankings

For immediate press release:

(First place votes in parenthesis)

Division I

1. Jesuit 100 (10) (20-0-0)(beat Northshore 2-0, beat Ben Franklin 5-0, beat Dutchtown 3-1, beat Newman 3-0, beat Caddo Magnet 5-0)
2. Brother Martin 86 (10-0-7)(tied Fontainebleau 1-1, tied Newman 0-0)(beat Hahnville 2-0)
3. Lafayette 82 (10-3-4)(lost to Acadiana 1-0)(beat ESA 5-0, beat NISH 1-0) (tied STM 0-0)
4. Fontainebleau 69 (11-2-1)(beat Ponchatoula 3-2) (tied Brother Martin 1-1)(lost to Newman 1-0) (beat Hahnville 5-1)
5. Carencro 53 (12-2-4)(beat Acadiana 1-0, beat NISH 4-0) (tied Acadiana 1-1)(beat ED White 3-1) (lost to Tuerlings 5-2)
6. St. Paul's 44 (9-6)(beat St. Charles Cath 2-1, beat Baton Rouge 1-0) (lost to Caddo Magnet 4-3)
7. Catholic BR 41 (7-3-4)(beat Holy Cross 9-0) (tied Mandeville 1-1)(lost to Vandebilt 2-1)
8. Rummel 28 (9-7-2)(beat St. Martins 5-0)
9. Dutchtown 24 (8-4-4)(beat Ben Franklin 1-0) (lost to Northshore 1-0, lost to Jesuit 3-1)
10. Caddo Magnet 17 (14-3-1)(beat Airline 1-0, beat Baton Rouge 5-2, beat St. Pauls 4-3) (tied St. Charles Cath 1-1) (beat Vandebilt 3-2 (OT)) (lost to Jesuit 5-0)

Others receiving votes:
Acadiana 4 (10-5-3)(beat Lafayette 1-0)(lost to Carencro 1-0) (tied Carencro 1-1)(beat STM JV 3-0, beat Morgan City 9-0)
Captain Shreve 2 (12-4-2)


Division II

1. St. Thomas More 99 (9) (7-4-2)(beat Abbeville 8-0, beat NISH 4-0))(tied Lafayette 0-0)(beat ESA 4-0)
2. East Ascension 91 (1) (10-6-0)(lost to St. Amant 5-3) (beat West Feliciana 6-2, beat Tara 2-1)
3. St. Michael’s 73 (7-4-2)(beat Lee 1-0, beat St. Amant JV 5-0)
4. Vandebilt Catholic 68 (7-11-1)(beat Mandeville 3-1, beat Holy Cross 3-0, beat Catholic BR 2-1)(lost to Caddo Magnet 3-2 (OT))
5. DeRidder 61 (14-4-3)(beat Alexandria 3-2, beat Sam Houston 6-1)
6. Tara 49 (8-5-1)(beat CHPC 11-1) (lost to East Ascension 2-1) (beat Central 3-0)
7. Alexandria 37 (8-5-2)(lost to DeRidder 3-2) (beat Leesville 2-1, beat Menard 5-3))
8. Ben Franklin 32 (1-9-1)(lost to Jesuit 5-0, lost to Dutchtown 1-0, lost to Northshore 2-0)
9. R.E. Lee 26 (9-4-1)(beat Central 6-1, beat Central 5-0) (lost to St. Michaels 1-0)
10. Pineville 9 (8-4-1)(beat Sam Houston 6-1) (tied Neville 1-1) (lost to Ouachita 2-1)

Others receiving votes:
Neville 4 (11-5-4)(beat West Monroe 5-2, beat Bolton 4-0)) (tied Pineville 1-1) (lost to St Fredericks 4-0)(beat Ruston 1-0)(lost to St Fredericks 1-0)
Parkway 1 (13-4-0)(beat Carroll 7-1, beat Airline 4-1)

Division III

1. Teurlings Catholic 100 (10) (18-1-2)(beat ESA 6-0, beat Notre Dame 11-0, beat STM JV 3-0, beat Morgan City 3-0, beat Carencro 5-2)
2. St. Louis 88 (7-8-2)(beat ESA 2-0, beat Barbe 5-0)
3. Newman 82 (9-4-4)(beat Hahnville 5-1, beat Fontainebleau 1-0) (tied Brother Martin 0-0) (lost to Jesuit 3-0)
4. Opelousas Catholic 64 (5-4-1)(beat Beau Chene 8-0)
5. St. Thomas Aquinas 55 (4-4-0)
6. St. Martin 42 (5-7-1)(lost to Rummel 5-0)
7. E.D. White 38 (4-4-0)( lost to Carencro 3-1) (beat STM JV 2-0)
7. Episcopal BR 38 (7-3-4)
9. Menard 23 (11-4-3)(beat Buckeye 7-0) (lost to Alexandria 5-3)
10. University 15 (6-5-4)(beat West Feliciana 1-0, beat Zachary 2-0)

Others recieving votes:

St. Fred's 2 (10-2)(beat Neville 4-0, beat Ouachita 5-3, beat Neville 1-0)
Ridgewood Prep 2


LAHSsoccer.com is a website devoted to Louisiana high school soccer. Begun in 1999 as LAprepSoccer.com, it has released weekly rankings each week since. Its voters are from throughout the state.

[flat3]

I was quite surprised to see St. Michael still at #3 after losing to Parkview 2-4.
As I kept saying, I would like to get an explanation on Ridgewood Prep. Midway through the season, they have no record. Neither did they last year.

[soccerjunqie]

OK, I had nothing to do tonite so I thought that I would get creative. Below is a comparison of the two polls posted this evening. The combining of both puts EA ranked 1st, STM 2nd and DeRidder 3rd. What does it mean. Absolutely nothing but that DII continues to be wide open although EA & STM appear to be favorites, with DeRidder closing in.

Power Rating Division II
1 13.13 Parkway (2) 10 4 0
2 12.78 E. Ascension (2) 6 3 0
3 12.39 DeRidder (2) 12 4 3
4 12.32 St. Th. More (2) 5 3 2
5 12.14 Pineville (2) 7 3 0
6 11.63 Neville (2) 8 3 2
7 11.54 Lee (2) 7 3 1
8 11.43 Tara (2) 6 3 0
9 10.84 Loyola (2) 5 3 1
10 10.48 Alexandria (2) 6 4 2
11 10.10 Vandebilt Cath. (2) 4 6 1
12 9.76 St. Michael (2) 5 4 2

LaPrep Top 10 Division II

1. St. Thomas More 99 (9)
2. East Ascension 91 (1)
3. St. Michael’s 73
4. Vandebilt Catholic 68
5. DeRidder 61
6. Tara 49
7. Alexandria 37
8. Ben Franklin 32
9. R.E. Lee 26
10. Pineville 9
11. Neville 4
12. Parkway 1

Add the rankings together:

Parkway: 13
EA 4
DeR 8
STM 5
Pineville 15
Neville 17
Lee 16
Tara 14
Loyola n/r (not in Prp Poll)
Alexandria 17
VC 15
ST. Mich 15
BF n/r (not in PR)

Combined Rankings in DII

1 EA
2 STM
3 DeR
4 PKWY
5 Tara
6 Tie Pineville
VC
St. Mich
9 Lee
10 Tie Neville
Alexandria

[dhssoccermom25]

WOW!! Nice job on that soccerjunqie. That had to take some time and lots of figuring!!

[soccerjunqie]

Thanks. For some teams I had to take my shoes off and use my toes to count. I persevered and hopefully got it right.

[tsumi77]

soccerjunqie said:

Thanks. For some teams I had to take my shoes off and use my toes to count. I persevered and hopefully got it right.

I'm confused as how (mathematic method) did you combine both rankings

... sorry... never been good in maths

[ShreveDad]

Combining the D1 Poll and Rankings

1. Jesuit (2)
2. Brother Martin (4)
3. Lafayette (6)
4. Fontainebleau (10)
4. Carencro (10)
6. Caddo Magnet (14)
7. St. Pauls (15)
8. Rummel (16)
9. Acadiana (18)
10. Captain Shreve (19)
11. Catholic BR (20)
11. Dutchtown (20)

[coachray40]

Overall i think the poll is pretty much on the mark--with one very large exception. Pollsters, it is time to stop giving Ben Franklin votes. They are 1-6-1, have beaten nobody, and before I hear "Well they played some really tough teams", overall no. They have had similar results against ranked teams as unranked. They dont even show up in the power rankings. I am not dissing BF, just pointing out that they do not deserve to be ranked at all, let alone #8. I have been critical of Vandy and St Louis be ranked as well, though St Louis seems to be on the upswing. Vandy still needs to show me something, and is overranked at #4, but I can see them receiving votes way ahead of Ben Franklin.

BF are getting placed in the polls by some who are going by name recognition only. Flat3, putmeincoach2 and I spend a lot of time compiling results to hopefully help our pollsters make informed decisions. Including Ben Franklin right now is not appropriate.

[coachray40]

tsumi77 said:

soccerjunqie said:

Thanks. For some teams I had to take my shoes off and use my toes to count. I persevered and hopefully got it right.

I'm confused as how (mathematic method) did you combine both rankings

... sorry... never been good in maths

he took the poll location of each team(1-10) and added it to thier power ranking position. Then he placed the teams in numerical order lowest to highest.

[tsumi77]

coachray40 said:

tsumi77 said:

I'm confused as how (mathematic method) did you combine both rankings

... sorry... never been good in maths

he took the poll location of each team(1-10) and added it to thier power ranking position. Then he placed the teams in numerical order lowest to highest.

Thanks Coach... now that you're saying it and that I'm looking at it, yep it does make sense!!!!!!! I guess I'm feeling a little stupid on this one

[coach522]

And EA is #1...it showed Saturday.

[coach522]

I do have one question...What about the power ratings of all the other schools in the state...some of those would have to be included to a true picture (Parkway is the best example) but I would think there have to be other schools with high power not getting votes in the poll...plus the negative factor of schools not posting results...

[flat3]

As the author of Power Ratings, I found coachray40's posting interesting. Though my votes this week were late (thus not counted), I voted Ben Franklin #9 myself, pretty much ignoring my own Power Ratings. Yes, the only team they beat was University, but I was there watching them. I thought they deserved #9 or #10 ranking despite their record.

Here is a list of team they lost to: Dutchtown, St. Thomas More, St. Michael, Terrebonne, Jesuit, and Catholic. You don't call it an easy schedule. Besides, they tied Newman.

Their offense is struggling, but their defense is solid. I think teams like BF are why we need polls in addition to Power Ratings and stuff. If we vote along with Power Ratings, we don't need to vote.

Let's see how they fare in the second half of the season.

p.s. Here is one thing I agree with coachray40: It takes A LOT OF TIME to compile the overall records....

[tsumi77]

coach522 said:

And EA is #1...it showed Saturday.

...No no no no no no... I've said it before and will say it again, Division II is open for any of the top 12 teams on any given day!! EA had a good game Saturday, that's it!!
This year more than any other season, it's a toss up between 12 teams!

[dbeasely17]

The combination of the LA Prep Poll and the Power Rankings are interesting. Reminds me of the BCS alot. There are some obvious spots where it is right on, as well as a couple that are somewhat skewed.

[boomboomgoal]

acadiana should be ranked

[mrdashriprock]

boomboomgoal said:

acadiana should be ranked

Their 4 losses are all "quality losses" (I think that's the argument supporting some of the current Top 10) but they have no quality wins yet. When do they play Lafayette?

[boomboomgoal]

lhs vs acadiana tomorrow

[mrdashriprock]

A good showing against Lafayette should get them into the Top 10 next week.

[boomboomgoal]

i go to lafayette high in case you were wondering.. but i think making it to the semi-finals of the showcase is impressive