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Post by soccerbudds on Feb 24, 2006 13:17:58 GMT -6
If Lafayette is not allowed to play, then the only fair alternative is to have to first two teams they beat compete in a coin toss. The winner then competes with Jesuit in a coin toss, for the right to play FHS. You cannot eliminate the other two teams. Jesuit does not deserve this break.
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Post by timaeus on Feb 24, 2006 13:24:34 GMT -6
Not that this has anything to do with the post, but this thread has had over 15,000 views even though right now it says onlly 5,000. It has recounted twice already.
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Post by Bish on Feb 24, 2006 13:53:21 GMT -6
If Lafayette is not allowed to play, then the only fair alternative is to have to first two teams they beat compete in a coin toss. The winner then competes with Jesuit in a coin toss, for the right to play FHS. You cannot eliminate the other two teams. Jesuit does not deserve this break. I hope the whole coin toss thing was a joke. I found it pretty funny!
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Post by Rebel on Feb 24, 2006 14:05:23 GMT -6
I've read these boards for years and rarely, if ever, felt the need to post. This situation bothered me, so I thought I'd offer my .02. Now I did not attend this particular match (though I wanted to after attending the state finals last year, my thanks to Laffy and Jesuit for that match), so I'll refrain from speculating over the halftime events.
Given the culture surrounding high school soccer / sports (numerous uncertified coaches) and the nature of the certification (a class that most pay little attention during and a test that most players, let alone coaches should be able to pass on common sense), I feel that the current action being taken against Lafayette is excessive. This rule is slightly vague and only enforced when certain individuals are brought into the spotlight, as to my knowledge LHSAA does not routinely audit this area. I think the LHSAA is partially to blame here for not being proactive in a situation that is obvious to many who are involved in high school sports. Maybe I'm expecting too much out of the LHSAA and too little out of the programs themselves, though.
I coached high school soccer for five years while I was an LSU student. I did get my CECP certification during my first season, however I knew of several coaches each year who did not have their certification (head coach, assistant coach, trainer, water boy, etc). Whether this was more of a "don't ask, don't tell" matter or a matter of ignorance, I'd say it was some of both. I was never asked to show my credentials at any time, however I was not involved in such a high profile / scrutinized program as Lafayette or Jesuit. If there were better communication / registration / auditing between high school sports programs and the LHSAA, situations like this could be avoided (assuming it was indeed just a misunderstanding).
I'm certainly not condoning the breaking of any rules, but if this infraction does stand, does it merit taking an entire season away? I certainly hope that it won't in the end. This unfortunate situation had nothing to do with the kids themselves, which is what high school soccer is about.
Cheers.
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Post by Bish on Feb 24, 2006 14:07:35 GMT -6
Excellent post rebel.
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Post by imthebackseatcoach on Feb 24, 2006 14:28:09 GMT -6
Just out of curiousity, how did this situation begin? I noticed a post about a player filing a police report on behalf of his coach against a referee. And as someone else stated, it's not like credentials are checked along with the equipment before a game, so I guess I missed something. Was there an altercation during the game, at half-time or what?
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Post by cornerman on Feb 24, 2006 14:59:31 GMT -6
A loss is a loss. LHSAA is handling this wrong by letting Jesuit move on. The game was played, Jesuit did lose. Lafayette was DQd AFTER the game was over and therefore Fontainebleau should move on with a bye. It is unfair to Rummel and Catholic BR to allow Jesuit to simply move on in light of the situation. Lafayette has a good team, they showed up to play and did win - ALL 3 matches leading up to the semis.
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Post by mctalkstomuch on Feb 24, 2006 15:15:54 GMT -6
Well maybe you should have filled out a simple form for your inelgible coach. lhsaa.org/forms&bulletins/CoachesRegistrationForm.pdf this is where you find it, hope you can fiqure out how to fill it out by next year. A RULE IS A RULE PERIOD. YOU BROKE IT NOW YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT. TYPICAL FROM THE TEAM THAT IS GETTING SCREWED.
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Post by Ghandi on Feb 24, 2006 15:17:17 GMT -6
FROM THE TEAM THAT IS GETTING SCREWED. Exactly.
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Post by boomboomgoal on Feb 24, 2006 15:17:21 GMT -6
i think your sn is right, maybe you just need to shut up
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Post by soccerbudds on Feb 24, 2006 16:17:11 GMT -6
I'm glad this is my son's last year in Louisiana High School sports. I'm sick to my stomach. Go Carencro.
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Post by alleyball on Feb 24, 2006 16:18:46 GMT -6
Remember: It's just a game. No matter how much you try to live or die by it, it is just a game in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by brhsoccer14 on Feb 24, 2006 16:27:31 GMT -6
I just took the last hour to read through every post in the thread and from it, have seen many points of view and most of the interesting views made me rethink over and over again to where I stand on the situation. Let me start by saying that I, a BRMHS senior soccer player, will always remember that the best soccer team in 2006 was Lafayette High School and would like to congratulate them for having an outstanding season (and also beating us in one of the very first few games of the year). Also, I would like to say, that if I was one of the students in question (esp. seniors and juniors due to next year's probation), I would be disheartened by the mere fact that I did not advance in a round because the coach was not registered rather than losing the game itself. I am sorry that this has happened and hopefully you guys will know that in your hearts and minds that you were the best team this season. However, my viewing and to my understanding (correct me if I am wrong), LHSAA sets the rules or gives the rules to the schools and has them to sign off or agree to the terms and conditions of the rules (PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG). And if in fact the coach was ineligible (which I still am not sure about), then Lafayette should be disqualified from the playoffs. Another however, since LHSAA has made this decision, I feel that every coach still in the playoffs must be investigated and seen to if they are in fact registered with LHSAA or meet one of the requirements. Also, this brings up the question of whom should replace or not replace Lafayette in the playoffs. Is it stated in the rules who should replace a team in the playoffs in this event? If not, does it matter whether or not the forfeit occurred after the game? Many say that this affected the whole stance of the playoff bracket, and I agree, but there are problems to bringing back Catholic and Rummel of which the players' wheezing can tell you after taking a mile run (I can say that because after a week of no practice, I tried to run a mile and found myself in difficulty). A complete switch of the brackets is improbable, therefore, if the rule doesn't clearly state that in the event of a forfeit after the game due to the breaking of a rule that the opponent moves on, then I think that Fontainebleau should be given a bye. This is just my opinion.
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Post by justanotherperson on Feb 24, 2006 16:32:06 GMT -6
If you ask me, I think its BULL, they broke a rule, so what, I dont think you should have to forfeit a game because a omeligble coach, maybe probation or a fine, maybe both, but dont punish the players. Im actually an Acadiana fan, but I still think its wrong to do that to those players.
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Post by ashfan on Feb 24, 2006 16:39:58 GMT -6
i agree with the majority of responses above. Lafyaette should be out, BUT Jesuit should not be in the Semis. In all fairness (if you cn use that word) it should be a bye.
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Post by shsgoalkeeper on Feb 24, 2006 16:42:37 GMT -6
I'm a high school player, and i would be upset right now if i was laffy, i don't understand why they can't ban the coach from high school soccer and still have laffy in the playoffs. I'm going to be upset if jesuit wins state, cause they don't deserve it.
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Post by Ghandi on Feb 24, 2006 16:45:32 GMT -6
I'm a high school player, and i would be upset right now if i was laffy, i don't understand why they can't ban the coach from high school soccer and still have laffy in the playoffs. I'm going to be upset if jesuit wins state, cause they don't deserve it. Honestly, I'd like to see Jesuit win. They know they don't deserve it. They know they got beat fair and square. They know who is the best team in the state. Thats what I want the trophy holder this year to realize.
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Post by comeaux7 on Feb 24, 2006 16:46:28 GMT -6
this is the gayest rule ever and all of a sudden they play jesuit and its brought up if this stick there will be quite a few rowdy shchool booeing jesuit
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Post by shsgoalkeeper on Feb 24, 2006 17:14:25 GMT -6
I was hoping for laffy to win, but i agree with Ghandi, who ever wins state, which probably will be jesuit, should know that they aren't the real state champions.
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Post by justanotherperson on Feb 24, 2006 17:16:22 GMT -6
Jesuit dosent deserve it, im sorry, but they dont, Lafayette does.
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