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Post by Mung on Jan 30, 2007 17:39:31 GMT -6
I think it was a smart coaching move to allow Tioga to win so as not to have to face Neville until the quarterfinals. I guess Sam Houston did some homework. Homework? If you look back in the thread on 1/23 I jokingly suggested that they throw the game, but never believed they actually would. ASH's long term rivalry with Tiogie would never allow us to even consider that. Also, I think you underestimate EA, but even if not, you get Neville eventually anyway, and they travel well. Of course, we probably ought to play the first round game before we just jump to regionals. Neville has put ASH out of the playoffs two of the last three years, so we're due, baby.
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Post by ashfan on Jan 31, 2007 7:44:52 GMT -6
How do we post final district standings? I know that ASH ended up 8-4 but don't see how everyone else did.
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Post by dhssoccermom25 on Jan 31, 2007 7:55:23 GMT -6
TEAM DISTRICT OVERALL
1. DeRidder 11-1-0 21-2-1 2. Tioga 9-3-0 15-5-2 3. Sam Houston 8-4-0 13-8-1 4. Alexandria 8-4-0 5. Pineville 2-7-0 6. Leesville 2-8-0 7. Peabody 0-8-0
1 through 4 are correct district standing 5-7 are murky because not all thier scores were posted online for me to update. Leesviille may have finished 5th and got a wildcard. DeRidder's overall record is the only one I know to be correct, tried to keep up with the others, but its not always easy.
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Post by cenlasocafan on Jan 31, 2007 10:18:46 GMT -6
Once again I must add it was an excellent job by the announcer at ASH on Senior night this Monday. A lot of thought must go into what you say and play? It really is a production! I only stayed for a couple of minutes of the girls game but saw the score on the news and would like to say goodluck to Peabody in the coming years as I'm sure your new program will grow.
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Post by ashfan on Jan 31, 2007 11:47:59 GMT -6
I have to agree with cenlasocafan. Peabody has shown a lot of class and a lot of heart to hang for the season, especially when you know that you are going to play short and with no subs. Does anyone know how the two players that went down during the ASH game are? I know how it is to see a child go down in a game, and I hope the Peabody parents continue to hang in there. How many of their girls are returning next year?
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Post by Mung on Jan 31, 2007 12:58:52 GMT -6
ASH goes to Neville Friday, Feb. 2nd at 5:30 pm as a wildcard. Please post your game times so we might be able to catch some other bi-district matches. Thanks.
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Post by imthebackseatcoach on Jan 31, 2007 13:15:55 GMT -6
Please note change:
Tioga is scheduled to play Opelousas Friday, Feb. 2nd at 7:00 PM at The Reservation.
After trying 3 associations we found one that could ref tomorrow night at 6:30 PM but Opelousas' AD would not accept that. They called Lafayette referees (after I had been told it could not be done) and got the 7:00 PM time.
Good luck to all!
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Post by dhssoccermom25 on Jan 31, 2007 13:25:02 GMT -6
Haughton @ DeRidder Friday night @ 6pm.
Brandy is going to be crushed, we were going to try and come wath Tioga if it was on Thurs. Let me know if anyting with your game changes. Good luck!
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Post by jasper on Feb 1, 2007 12:27:46 GMT -6
As a parent I find Monday's game between Sam Houston and Tioga disturbing. Sporting events are meant to have a winner and a loser. This game unfortunately produced only two losers. Tioga "lost" the opportunity to win the game and the exhilaration that comes from playing hard against a tough opponent. They "lost" the momentum that could have come from a tough game and the ability to build on that for the play-offs. Even had they actually lost, they knew they would have played with heart and would have held their heads ups. Sam Houston was a bigger loser in that they lost respect. They lost the respect of Tioga and I'm sure others, myself included. Did Sam Houston achieve anything? A win (second place seed) would have tem facing Neville in the second round. A loss (third place seed) has them facing Neville in the third round. Did this really change anything? They still face Neville. Maybe next year they should lose enough games to be only a wildcard and take their chances that way. I wish Tioga well. Their program has come a long way in the last two years. Other programs, well the saying goes that what goes around, comes around.
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Post by megaphoneman on Feb 1, 2007 18:44:19 GMT -6
I have stayed off all season because I truly believe most of you, however nice people, are living your lives through your children. Most of you go to games and sit like bumps on a log. As you are aware, I go and have fun. And yes I also cheer when our opponent makes a great play. Now this great concern over Sam Houston giving the game to Tioga, well the girls made the decision. I personnaly would have done everything possible to kick their tails and SH was on their way to do that. However, the girls decided that since through some bad breaks they had no chance for their third straight district win, to better place themselves in the playoffs. It may or may not help. Either way, they made a good decision in my mind and are not worried either way. They have had fun. So my suggestion is go have fun and don't worry about our girls they are great and we love them, win or loose, they are winners in my eyes. Thanks for a fun season and Tioga, hold your heads high, your a great team out having fun. Oh! I'm back now and will be in Morgan City cheering my girls on. Good luck to you all.
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Post by cenlasocafan on Feb 1, 2007 18:53:53 GMT -6
Personally I see nothing wrong with what happened in the SH/Tioga game. The way that the play-offs are set up will allow these things to happen and show how a coach can manipulate the system to give their team the best opportunity to progress in the play-offs. Is it good coaching - well yes, is it good for the sport - a definate NO.
I just think the LHSAA should go to a 16 team play-off system so that teams have to compete right to the end of district to progress. That would make for great competition!
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Post by jasper on Feb 1, 2007 20:13:55 GMT -6
The girls may have voted on the idea but it certainly did not originate with them. If Sam HOuston feels they are that good, why not face the stiffest competition early on. Longer playing can result in injuries to key players or other things can happen. My point is/was their action didn't just affect them but a lot of others. And to what purpose? They have to play Neville anyway. Their decision was definitely not good for the sport and not for them.
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Post by a9imus on Feb 1, 2007 21:32:40 GMT -6
By dropping to #3, SHHS will travel to Morgan City (about 2 1/2 hr drive) for 1st round. A win will then allow them to host EA. A win against EA will likely allow them to host Neville.
I don't think they're trying to avoid Neville...they would prefer to play them at HOME (avoiding that long drive), with a chance to advance to the semi's.
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Post by soccermom08 on Feb 1, 2007 21:40:46 GMT -6
How is it decided who will host a team in the 3rd round? Why would SHHS host Neville?
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Post by a9imus on Feb 1, 2007 21:50:05 GMT -6
Assuming Neville beats ASH and Tioga beats Opelousas, Neville would host Tioga. The reason Neville would host Tioga is that the both had HOME games, therefore, the team on TOP of the bracket will HOST.
If SHHS beats MC, they would HOST EA because their first game was AWAY. If they advance to play Neville, the host team is determined by previous games. (Neville: Home, Home SHHS: Away, Home)
Since Neville had 2 home games, SHHS would host.
**** If Opelousas beats Tioga, then Neville would have to travel to Opelousas in 2nd round. Which would allow Neville to host the 3rd round game.
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Post by soccermom08 on Feb 1, 2007 22:01:46 GMT -6
Thanks for the explanation! I'm just a Neville soccermom and definitely don't know the rules.... Good luck to everyone in the first round. We will just take it one game at a time like our girls always do!
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Post by a9imus on Feb 1, 2007 22:11:13 GMT -6
Neville definitely has an advantage being on the VERY TOP of the entire playoff bracket. They could possibly play HOME, HOME, AWAY, HOME...and possibly host the FINALS!
(of course, any upsets along the way could change that course)
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Post by swlasoccerfan on Feb 2, 2007 8:29:46 GMT -6
The girls may have voted on the idea but it certainly did not originate with them. If Sam HOuston feels they are that good, why not face the stiffest competition early on. Longer playing can result in injuries to key players or other things can happen. My point is/was their action didn't just affect them but a lot of others. And to what purpose? They have to play Neville anyway. Their decision was definitely not good for the sport and not for them. Good for the Sam Houston??? Sam Houston decision to "lose" the game was made for several reasons. Most of the parents that don't know how playoffs work just see is as a thrown game, but if you understand how the brackets will play out 3rd place is where anyone in Dist 2 wants to be to have the best run at a championship in the playoffs. We travel to Morgan City today, next we will host EA because they are home this round and we are in the top of that particular section of the bracket. For those that don't know EA knocked us out last year. The girls want a chance of redemption. On to the potential 3rd round, Neville. We would host Neville because you can not have 3 home games in a row, and they would have already had 2. Suppose we beat Neville we would play away for the Semis's at either Ben franklin or Vandy. Eitherway we would travel. Come time for the finals if we make it that far we would host because we played away for the semis' and we are on the top of the bracket. Now tell me if you could follow all the rules and work within the system given to you wouldn't you try to take advantage of it as much as possible and still be legal??? Now that you know the coaching strategy, please quit bashing Sam Houston for the way things ended up. We have no problem playing the best teams as can be seen by our schedule with 2 games each against barbe (Last years DI State runner up and this years DI Dist4 Champs) and 2 games against St Lou(Ranked 2/3 in the state in DIII and with 19 shutouts this season and also this years DIII dist __ champs). Although these 4 games were lost, we DO NOT and WILL NOT back down from anyone. This is the time of the year that they play from the heart and I know we have plenty of it. Good luck to everyone else in their respective playoff runs
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Post by Mung on Feb 2, 2007 9:09:19 GMT -6
I have stayed off all season because I truly believe most of you, however nice people, are living your lives through your children. Most of you go to games and sit like bumps on a log. Wow, the guy who brings a megaphone to the game and blathers on incessantly accuses we quiet soccer fans of living vicariously thru our kids. Oh the irony. Cenlasocrfan makes a great suggestion: make the playoffs a 16 team bracket, so you get the 1 & 2 seeds from each district, plus two wildcards to cover deserving teams from the large competitive districts. The present system where everyone but the 0-fer teams gets in is silly, and reminiscent of the NBA.
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Post by soccermadness10 on Feb 2, 2007 9:54:25 GMT -6
I think that the point was missed here. I went to the tioga/sh game and am not a supporter of either time but it bothered me when I saw a lot of the SH starters leaving the bench and not playing anymore. There is a lack of class when it comes to losing games purposely and that's the point being made if I'm reading certain statements correctly. Who wants to play a team that's going to give them the game, SH could have just saved the money for the trip and forfeited the game if that's how they wanted to do it. It's all politics lately, I think the playoffs should be randomly generated from now on, so nobody has a choice and they play whoever gets drawn out of a hat. Put the 16 teams that qualify in, draw 'em out and have fun with it. Eliminates this "rigging" of games which really is what it is.
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