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Post by goat on Feb 22, 2004 15:21:43 GMT -6
That's one more than Acadiana scored against Jesuit! A goal is a goal. CL beat Rummel 1-0 on a PK. It still counted as a loss. When you post, make some sense. to use your words lasocrfan"it still counted as a loss" acadiana beat rummel therefor they should be ranked higher, LOL, i think hdkiga make good sence, i am a ram supporter and you are a rummel supporter, we will both stand by out team,(and thats how it should be).
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Post by Smeagle on Feb 22, 2004 15:50:38 GMT -6
CL also beat rummel on a goal... Jesuit may not have one their district, but does that matter??? Look at college football, Oklahoma didn't win their confrence!!.. Rummel won the division but couldn't pull through when they needed against lafayette... You could probally put the top 5 and they could all beat each other 5 times out of 10.. They will differ depending on where a person is located and what teams they seen, or haven't seen
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Post by lasocrfan on Feb 22, 2004 17:42:31 GMT -6
I contend that Jesuit is in the finals because of the side of the bracket they were on. Not meant to take away from a good team, but, in my opinion only, St. Paul's and Lafayette were a tougher draw than CL and Acadiana. I know others will disagree.... But, smeagle, you make good points. This can be argued forever. All of the top 8 can be proud of the season they had.
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Post by Eckleburg on Feb 22, 2004 18:13:57 GMT -6
lasocrfan: It looks like your loyalty for Rummel is clouding your perception of reality. CL & Acadiana an easier road than St.Pauls & Lafayette? CL beat SP 2-0 during the year. / Acadiana beat Lafayette 2 of 3 games during the year. CL and Acadiana are 3-0 against Rummel. Any logical person looking at these 3 teams without emotion would have Rummel ranked 3rd amongst these 3 teams. - However this is only my humble opinion. The fact is nobody remembers who came out 5th,4th,3rd, or even 2nd. - Only #1 matters and how you got there really dosen't matter.
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Post by goat on Feb 22, 2004 19:33:10 GMT -6
eckleburg i couldn't has said it better, thats why i'm glad you said it-LOL.lasocrfan and i are both loyal fans and will defend our team to the end so we will both have to agree to disagree. thanks for the PM lasocrfan that was me at the fence.
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Post by lasocrfan on Feb 23, 2004 12:47:42 GMT -6
Like I said, I know others will disagree.....
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Post by maddie86 on Feb 29, 2004 12:37:38 GMT -6
1. Lafayette 2. Jesuit 3. Acadiana 4. Rummel 5. Central Lafourche 6. St. Pauls (tie) 6. Sulphur (tie) 8. Catholic BR 9. BM 10. Northshore
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Post by reggina on Feb 29, 2004 15:32:14 GMT -6
i agree with maddie on the first four
1. Lafayette 2. Jesuit 3. Acadiana 4. Rummel 5. Central LaFouche
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Post by reggina on Feb 29, 2004 15:32:36 GMT -6
five sorry
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Post by lasocrfan on Feb 29, 2004 16:46:32 GMT -6
No way Jesuit is ranked above Rummel. Rummel won the district, having beat Jesuit in their most recent meeting. Rummel lost in the semis to the state champ, the only reason they were not in the finals. Jesuit was in that game because they came from the other half of the bracket. My top ten based on how I saw the teams playing at the end of the season:
1. Lafayette 2. Rummel 3. Jesuit 4. Acadiana 5. CL 6. St. Paul's 7. Catholic BR 8. Bro. Martin 9. Sulpher 10. Northshore
Let the arguments begin!!
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Post by maddie86 on Feb 29, 2004 18:02:34 GMT -6
jesuit will be 2nd and Brother Martin will be 10th if they are lucky (they didnt win in the 1st round)
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Post by SulphurBack8 on Feb 29, 2004 18:43:27 GMT -6
1.Laf 2.Jesuit 3.Sulphur 4.Rummel 5.Acadiana 6.St.paul's 7.Central laf. 8.Catholic of BR 9.Bro Martin 10.Carencro
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Post by maddie86 on Feb 29, 2004 18:44:36 GMT -6
why sulphur 3, the best they will show is 6 if that
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Post by Smeagle on Feb 29, 2004 19:17:46 GMT -6
1. Lafayette (no question.. Beat Jesuit at Tad Gomley!! That is a tough task) 2. Jesuit (made it to finals by beating Acadiana 2-0 and CL 5-3 with 1 PK... I place them above Rummel because the fact of them playing a closer game against Lafayette) 3. Central Lafourche (Went to Tad Gomley and gave Jesuit hell and never gave up...) 4. Acadiana ( Loss by 2 against Jesuit, just like CL... But are placed behind them because they failed to put a score in) 5. Rummel (Defense got dismantaled by Lafayette, allowed 3 goals in one half!! Lucky to be in top 5 after that game, my opinion... They also loss 1-0 1-0 to CL earlier in the year) 6. Sulphur ( Took a district 3 team to knock them out!!... They loss by 2 points to Lafayette and so did Rummel... Then can be argued to be in the 5th place) 7. St. Pauls( Had a tough draw in the Bi-Regionals but managed to pull it off... Loss to Rummel in Shootout... Couldn't ask for a better game) 8. Catholic BR (Only lost by 1 point in the Regionals to Acadiana who i have rannked #4) 9. Brother Martin ( They didn't make it past Bi-Regionals but they loss to St. Pauls on their homefield... Could have beat many teams in the Regionals) 10. Caddo Magnet (Only lost by 2 to CL who i have ranked #3)
Teams to mention: Northshore, Captain Shreve, Carencro, Mandeville, and list can go on for a good ways...
These rankings are well my opinion of course and everybody is intitled to their own... Just because a person finished in semis dont mean they deserve top 4!! For an example of this Look how Division III was stacked...
I do believe there is many spots like 3-5 can be argued in any way... #10 spot can be put in the place with many teams....
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Post by LAsoccer1317 on Feb 29, 2004 20:07:00 GMT -6
1. Lafayette 2. Jesuit 3. Rummel 4. Central Lafourche (Could have beaten Acadiana in the semis, but got Jesuit, unfortunately... good team) 5. Acadiana 6. St. Pauls (Really suprised me... they had a great year... and hung with Rummel very well) 7. Sulphur (Great wildcard team but doesn't deserve to be in the top 5) 8. Catholic BR 9. Brother Martin 10. Caddo Magnet (Throughout the year, beat Shreve once and Loyola once, tied Mandeville and Vandebilt Catholic, and lost to Shreve twice (both on PKs) and once to CL, which was a great game... Final record was 19-3-2)
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Post by lasocrfan on Feb 29, 2004 20:23:30 GMT -6
To Smeagle - everyone lost earlier in the year, including Lafayette, Acadiana, Jesuit, and CL. Rummel was acually leading at half and scored against Lafayette, something Jesuit was not able to do. The game against Jesuit was closer because Jesuit played on their home field 10 minutes from school - Rummel had to travel two and a half hours to play on Lafayette's home field. First game Rummel lost by more than one goal and Lafayette is only the second team all year to score 3 goals on Rummel in one game. The other was a 3-3 tie in a tournament when the game meant nothing (Rummel already advancing regardless of outcome). While Jesuit is a great team and had a terrific year, they are being boosted by their past reputation and history of excellence in soccer rather than how they played this year. No way Jesuit is #2 and no way they are ahead of Rummel.
Like I said, let the arguments begin.
These are my opinions, of course, and I respect others' opinions. In reality, the only spot worth having is #1. Good job Lafayette Lions.
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Post by McScruff on Feb 29, 2004 20:56:10 GMT -6
Jesuit is better than Rummel. At least the Jesuit team that I saw last night was better than the Rummel team I saw last Saturday. Lafayette came out really flat in the Rummel game and Rummel took advantage of that. Last night's game was played at a completely different level. The whole game was played, by both teams, like Lafayette played in the Second half of the Rummel game. There is no doubt in my mind that Jesuit is the second best team in the state.
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Post by Smeagle on Feb 29, 2004 21:33:52 GMT -6
I figured i would have an arguement saying rummel should be ahead of jesuit... This is the way i look at it...
1) Rummel's defense fell apart when it counted the most, by allowing 3 goals in one half against Lafayette. Jesuit played same team and only allowed one goal and kept the game close... Now i was not at these games so i do not know exactly what happened at them but i just say what the score tells me so to speak...
2) Yes, Rummel won the district, but does that really count??? Yes it is a great accomplishment for the school but it doesn't help you win a State Championship, a playoff game does...
3) Rummel may have beaten Jesuit in their last appearence, but didn't Jesuit have a slightly easier road because they didn't have to play Lafayette in the Semis... So Rummel actually done them a favor there. Now i am not saying in any way the game was throw or anything of that nature... just trying to make a few points, so if you feel that way sorry in advance...
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Post by lasocrfan on Feb 29, 2004 22:25:31 GMT -6
By saying that Rummel won district I am trying to make the point that, to use your own words, Jesuit didn't win when it counted. Some are basing Rummel's entire season on the last thirty minutes of the Lafayette. Up to that point the game was close (Rummel actually leading - Jesuit never led in their game), and remained close until the third goal was scored, only the second time all season that happened. Play that game on our home field and the game might have been much closer (not trying to say Rummel would have won). But, playing Lafayette on our home field was not a luxery the Raiders would have - unlike Jesuit who played 10 minutes from school on their home field. It is a factor in why the game was close. Jesuit was in the title game because of the side of the bracket they were on. Flip the two teams and Jesuit loses in the semis and Rummel is, perhaps, in the finals.
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Post by McScruff on Feb 29, 2004 23:05:26 GMT -6
Someone posted this a couple of weeks ago and I never commented on it, but I think I will here. I don't think the top teams in the state really think all that much about winning district. Sure, it is nice to do and everyone wants to win district. It just doesn't seem like it is as important as it once was. When Lafayette clinched district this year, I never heard the players even mention it. Their focus was on state. I am sure the same can be said about how Jesuit's players felt by not winning district. I think that winning district meant a lot more to Rummel than not winning meant to Jesuit, for obvious reasons. Ask Lafayette how much all those district championships meant to them without ever winning the big prize. I think at one point they had won 5 in a row in the mid 90's, but were always labeled underacheivers. So I don't think you can say that Jesuit didn't win when it counted. They won when it counted to them. And, it never counts more than in the playoffs.
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